Trump 2nd Impeachment News/Talk Megathread

[WMS]

JFC @ the Republicans: either spineless crapweasels or traitorous loons. Or just cynical beyond imagining.

[WMS]

Congressperson Jaime Beutler explains her impeachment vote, one event at a time. This case obviously is not a close one, and I would submit that it is precisely conviction that will help to heal the country and bring closure to  the absolutely most horrific set of acts ever committed by a POTUS. I must admit I was very traumatized by the events, and I am very sad most Pubs in Congress do not understand the absolute need to set a precedent  that the advocacy of violence by innuendo or implication or by enablement to overturn a democracy, cannot go unanswered by anything other that a permanent ban on holding federal office. I also think it would be "healing" for all to hear the actual facts, of which the below are a foretaste that are so utterly damning, and as I said, frightening.

https://twitter.com/HerreraBeutler/status/1349959275922206721

I can’t wait for certain blue avatars to declare that this means nothing and that Trump did nothing wrong. Happened already in this thread...

[WMS]

Congressperson Jaime Beutler explains her impeachment vote, one event at a time. This case obviously is not a close one, and I would submit that it is precisely conviction that will help to heal the country and bring closure to  the absolutely most horrific set of acts ever committed by a POTUS. I must admit I was very traumatized by the events, and I am very sad most Pubs in Congress do not understand the absolute need to set a precedent  that the advocacy of violence by innuendo or implication or by enablement to overturn a democracy, cannot go unanswered by anything other that a permanent ban on holding federal office. I also think it would be "healing" for all to hear the actual facts, of which the below are a foretaste that are so utterly damning, and as I said, frightening.

https://twitter.com/HerreraBeutler/status/1349959275922206721

I can’t wait for certain blue avatars to declare that this means nothing and that Trump did nothing wrong. Happened already in this thread...

You mean like this comment? ...

... the idea that Trump "instigated insurrection" is preposterous, and will be found so by history. 

I was actually thinking of a different blue avatar but that’ll do

[WMS]

Has there been any consideration to admitting DC before the trial to decrease the number of Republicans who would have to go out on a limb and convict?

Not that admitting states just for impeachment votes is a good precedent, but since DC statehood is a 100% lock this year anyway, might as well move it up on the calendar. After all, the Americans living in DC deserve a voice in this matter.

1. Admit DC as 25 states
2. Have quick elections in all 25 new states
3. Remove Trump from office without any Republican votes even though he already left
4. Profit!

So much talk about how “liberals hate socialists more than fascists”, not so much about how the reverse is also true for a certain obnoxious portion of the left.

I do love how there was this catchphrase among socialists and far leftist that goes “scratch a lib and a fascist bleeds”. Yet these past 4 years under the closest to a fascist we have had in office we have seen this segment of leftist like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Chapo Trap House, and posters like Jfern and Big Abraham that spend there time only attacking mainstream democrats just to be a contrarian and in cases outright defend Trump

Some of us remember Obama's neoliberal warmongering.

Okay, but what mystifies people isn't why a hard leftist would be hostile to mainstream Democrats, it's why a hard leftist would be even more hostile to mainstream Democrats than to Trump and Trumpism, a position that only makes sense if you presuppose that 1. foreign policy is so overwhelmingly more important than domestic policy that a President can literally attempt to abolish representative democracy at home and still be preferable to a "normal" President whose foreign policy was worse than the aspiring autocrat's and 2. excessive use of hard power is the only kind of bad foreign policy. Normal people, including normal leftists, reject both of those premises.

When everyone is acting like Trump is worse than Hitler while Democrats aren't much better than Trump, what's the point of piling on with Trump. I'm more scared of Presidents that the media isn't so willing to stand up to.

Silence, neoliberal!

Jfern is a fly encased in amber. Over 15 years and counting...

[WMS]

How in the hell any Republican who votes to acquit can look at their weasely countenances in the mirror the next morning and not cut their own throats with their razors out of utter shame is beyond me.

[WMS]

Looking like it’s time to treat the Republican Party the same way they treated Southern Democrats after the Civil War. Wave the bloody shirt of treason in their faces, and to hell with any bipartisanship with these @$$holes.

[WMS]

That they only got 7 crossovers for this should also point out how delusional the filibuster lovers are.

Yep. There is now absolutely no reason to “work across the aisle” with a party of traitors.