Poll: Queen Elizabeth II hospitalized. Is it time for her to abdicate?

[Lincoln Republican]

Elizabeth II has been Queen for the past 61 years, since 1952.  Born in 1926, she is now 86 years of age.

She was hospitalized earlier this week, and released.

Is it time for her to abdicate and turn over the responsibilities and duties of the monarchy to her 64 year old son and heir, Prince Charles?

Please vote and discuss.

[Lincoln Republican]

Oh, get off of it. 

This is a very legitimate topic for discussion. 

If you don't like it, don't read it.

[Lincoln Republican]

No other elderly monarch's ever been ill?

Off course she should stay in.

My point is not that she has been ill, this simply brings this matter to the forefront once again.  The point is, she has been the monarch for a very long time, and that perhaps it is time to turn the reins over to someone else.

Several other European monarchs have abdicated, the most recent ones listed below, have given up being in the limelight, and turned over the sometimes demanding responsibilities of monarchy to someone younger.

Wilhelmina, Queen of the Netherlands September 4, 1948
Leopold III, King of the Belgians July 16, 1951
Charlotte, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg November 12, 1964
Juliana, Queen of the Netherlands April 30, 1980
Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg October 7, 2000
Beatrix, Queen of the Netherlands, effective April 30, 2013

(Wiki)

I really see no reason Elizabeth II should not follow suit, and enjoy retirement.  
  

[Lincoln Republican]

If you abolished the whole thing this wouldn't be an issue.

That would be fine with me.

[Lincoln Republican]

Again, if you don't like it, don't read it.

You have the option.

[Lincoln Republican]

Mods, is there something we can do about closing this thread? I find it very offensive and disrespectful irrelevant and useless.

That may well describe half the threads on this forum.

[Lincoln Republican]

Again, if you don't like it, don't read it.

You have the option.

And let the good name of Her Majesty be slandered by you republican upstarts? No sir.

Nobody is slandering the good name of Her Majesty.  Some, such as I, simply believe she deserves a well earned retirement in her advanced years, away from the pressures of office.

And for the record, if the people of the UK ever decide to abolish the monarchy and establish a republic, I for one will not be raising an army to restore the House of Windsor to their former glory.  

[Lincoln Republican]

She was chosen by the divine to rule until death, so no.

You will have to excuse me, but I was under the impression that the Divine Right of Kings, or queens in this case, died out in the 16th century.

This discussion is really thought provoking.

[Lincoln Republican]

Yes, it is. She reminds me of Speaker Boehner. Despite the approval from both the House of Lords & House of Commons, she still refused to pass the equal rights bill for gays throughout the Commonwealth. She's just asking for something to happen to her & her incredibly frail husband Prince Philip.

Um, mods?!?! Pretty sure threatening Her Majesty is a bannable offense.

The only one worthy of a bannable offense is you for your constant and annoying nattering that everyone else be banned.  You sound worse than a nagging old woman.   

If someone believes and says that Lizzy should step aside, they are free to do so and say so.

Freedom of speech shall not be denied!
 
 

[Lincoln Republican]

Lief seem to be doing a fine job of trollin' (better be).

It's time for her to abdicate be abolished.

You're disgusting and treasonous for suggesting the abolition of the best form of government known to man.

Uh, excuse me, but the best form of government known to man is not an anachronistic, elitist regime where the octogenarian relic of a bygone era clings by her finger nails to the vestiges of an oppressive past, where her ancestors caused untold hardship, misery and death to their own citizens, and where the heir apparent is a philandering degenerate.   

[Lincoln Republican]

The way the queen and her husband treated Diana before her death, and certainly after her death, was absolutely deplorable.

All this ridiculous protocol that must be followed, at least in the mind of the royal family.

Diana dies in a tragic car crash.  The queen is in Scotland, therefore no flag flies at Buckingham Palace.  The queen returns to Buckingham Palace, the royal standard goes up on the flag pole because the queen is in residence, the royal standard comes down, the union jack goes up and is then lowered to half mast.

The union jack should be flying at half mast within minutes of hearing of the death of Diana.

The only reason the queen reacted was because the public was so outraged with the queen and the royal family they were ready to overthrow the monarchy.         

[Lincoln Republican]

Surrounding the death of Diana, the queen was about as warm as a dead fish.

And I say hang royal protocol.  It has no place in the world of the 21st century.

[Lincoln Republican]

Diana was one of the most overhyped persons in recent memory.

Diana had her faults, the world knows.

However, she did not deserve the shoddy treatment she received from the so called royal family.

And Kalwejt, feel free to criticize me all you like.  However, please restrain yourself from attacking Simfan, as he is no longer on this forum, and therefore cannot defend himself.

[Lincoln Republican]

I will point out to this forum that, all things being equal, it is more the responsibility of the father of the children, rather than one of the grandmothers, to console the children after the loss of their mother.

Oh, and by the way, I shall simply consider the source from whence they came, of ignorant and  boorish remarks made by a certain individual who shall remain nameless, as I choose not to engage in such childish and callow behavior.

[Lincoln Republican]

Note to the grammar snob, if Prince Charles at that time was in the position of turning over the  consoling of his sons to their grandmother, then that speaks volumes about his character, and he is truly unfit to become king.

[Lincoln Republican]

You have completely ignored my statement, all things being equal.

I myself do not engage in Diana-worship, as you so inelegantly call it, but what is really tiresome is the defense of an anachronistic institution known as monarchy that has long since outlived its usefulness, and  really has no relevance in the 21st century.

[Lincoln Republican]

The statement, all things being equal is completely relevant.

Having the requisite qualities, such as strength or ability, for a task or situation.

I am sorry you fail to realize how this fits into this particular situation.

And please, anybody, if you wish to watch paint dry, please feel free to do so.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.  However, I can only imagine what kind of a mentality it would take to sit there, or stand there, and watch paint dry.  Personally, my mind is too advanced to be of a mind set to watch paint dry, but hey, if your mind finds that sort of thing to be to your satisfaction, and if it satisfies the level of your intellectual curiosity, then by all means, go for it I say.  I won't think any less of you should you undertake the activity of watching paint dry.

[Lincoln Republican]

That's the best ya got?

Pitiful!

[Lincoln Republican]

That's the best ya got?

Pitiful!

You're not worth wasting the best on.

Judging from the comments here of late, none of you have any best.

[Lincoln Republican]

She is a figurehead.  She does represent the British people when traveling abroad and receiving dignitaries at home.  Part of Britian's standing in the world is due to her and her gravitas.  She is a serious person.  She has met more world leaders than anyone alive today.  There really isn't anyone quite like her.  Obviously none of her children come close.  Maybe it is the end of the line for that institution.

Would that that would be so.

[Lincoln Republican]

She is a figurehead.  She does represent the British people when traveling abroad and receiving dignitaries at home.  Part of Britian's standing in the world is due to her and her gravitas.  She is a serious person.  She has met more world leaders than anyone alive today.  There really isn't anyone quite like her.  Obviously none of her children come close. Maybe it is the end of the line for that institution.

Would that that would be so.

If Diana was alive and married to dumbo ears would you feel the same way?  I'm guessing no.

Well, for years I have been an advocate of monarchial abolition, although, you do raise a good point.

However, I would be willing for Diana to be freed from the machinations of monarchy should she still have been in a position of becoming queen by still being married to dumbo ears.