Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[GeneralMacArthur]

Just to reiterate my earlier point, woke twitter calling mainstream pundits "out of touch" for bashing this has aged like milk. No, you're the ones who are out of touch, step out of your little online bubble and talk to some real people.

Interestingly enough, despite Biden's approval taking a hit in the YouGov poll, his favorability did not change.

I see this as purely a job performance thing. This isn't going to change anyone's view of his character. Ultimately job performance running ahead of personal favorability is better than the other way around so Biden could still be in trouble here.

No, what's happening is people are getting inundated with MSM calling it a "disaster" and insisting it "could have been done much better" without offering any specifics, and tons of misleading or false information.  So they hear all this crap and believe it and adjust their opinions accordingly without giving it much thought.

We've already got the situation under control and are conducting a smooth evacuation, and instead of giving Biden credit, the media has moved on to the next news cycle.

[GeneralMacArthur]

It'll go back up.

It seems like the media is going to win this round by just constantly talking about Afghanistan like it's still 10 AM Monday morning and completely ignoring everything the Biden administration has done since then or the current situation on the ground.  And America's great collection of dupes is going to just lap it up uncritically.

This is leading a lot of Democrats to turn on Biden.  When I look at Twitter, a lot of my left-leaning follows are trashing Biden.  The polling shows that both Democrats and Republicans are unsure what their positions are supposed to be -- do we support getting out of Afghanistan or not?  But the media has given everyone a clear vector to attack Biden: it could have been done better!

The thing is, everyone will forget about this in a couple weeks.  All the Americans are going to come home safe and sound.  The administration will do the best it can to get all the SIVs out who want to leave.  We'll probably be faced with lots of images of horror and tragedy in Afghanistan, but the administration can ask one simple question:  Do you want to re-invade Afghanistan and pick up where we left off?  I think for most people the answer is no.  Republicans will also probably raise a stink about the number of refugees Biden is bringing into America, allowing him to get on the right side of that issue.

But either way it's good that this is happening in August 2021 and not October 2024.

[GeneralMacArthur]

As I said a few weeks ago, it's going to go back up now that Afghanistan is finished and we're about to pass the infrastructure bill and a huge reconciliation package.

The only thing that could keep it down is if the Taliban captures some sympathetic American or SIV and makes a big deal about it.  You know the media's just frothing at the mouth to show an American getting executed and say "this is all because Biden abandoned Afghanistan."

[GeneralMacArthur]

If Facebook required you to show your vaccination card at login, COVID would be over tomorrow and Biden's approval would go back up to the 50s.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The nightmarish circumstances in this country are proving too much for Biden's administration to deal with, but the Afghanistan withdrawal likely caused his honeymoon phase to accelerate in declining.

With how Americans seem to be blaming him for everything, I'm not even sure that signing the infrastructure bill can even help him now.

I guess the only solace we can take is that as unpopular as he is, and may remain, he still most likely won't be polling as badly as Trump did on average...hopefully. Of course, Trump had his own cult and a bevy of confounding soft soft supporters to make up for that.

I just want to fast forward to a time where a deluge of bad news isn't happening...please...

The most frustrating part is that Americans seem to be blaming him for the Delta surge, which is caused by anti-vaxxers, even though he's taken strong actions to urge people to get the vaccine while his political opponents have openly embraced the anti-vaxx movement.

Simultaneously, Americans have made it clear that they would oppose a nationwide vaccine mandate, which is also the only action he could take to fix the Delta surge at this point.  So what do they want him to do?  Just magical thinking.  Biden should make Delta go away without making everyone get the vaccine.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Since Joe is fundamentally a good president who does good things that are popular with the American people, I expect his approval numbers to continue to rebound.

Vaccine mandate, overwhelming support.
Infrastructure bill, overwhelming support.
Reconciliation package, overwhelming support.

If they're successful in battling the Texas abortion law, that will also prove to be very popular.  The law is underwater even in Texas.

The utterly deranged assault on the administration by the media over Afghanistan, coupled with every pundit on the planet suddenly getting their Ph.Ds in Afghan politics from Wikipedia and playing armchair general, created the kind of frenzied negative environment that's impossible to counter.  But that's a one-time event and not something the GOP can hope to replicate anytime soon.  Thus it is not indicative of any long-term weakness in Biden's numbers.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The stock market is at an all-time high and unemployment is at an all-time low but people don't actually base their perception of the economy on reality anymore, they base it on whether the media is telling them the economy is good.

You could go take the average American voter, give them $5,000,000 and then tell them "you are poor" and on a poll that asks them whether they're rich or poor they would say "oh I'm poor."  That's how stupid these people are.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Can we please limit olawakandi's posts in these megathreads?  It's very frustrating looking at new posts and it's just one guy posting nonsense 5-6 times a day.

I get that people think it's cute but dear god is it annoying and makes the thread virtually unreadable.

[GeneralMacArthur]

This news seem like a pretty big deal for both Biden and the GOP heading into 2022

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1468606589053587459
The impact of $2.88 for gas is huge and will affect most Americans a lot quicker than any bill the Dems pass. Dropping gas prices also makes some of GOP inflation attacks on Dems less effective

Don't get wrong inflation will still be an issue, but I defiantly don't think it will be as big of a deal in 2022 if people are actually paying $2.00 at the pump

FWIW, I filled up for $2.99 a gallon last weekend, and prices are continuing to drop here (north Atlanta suburbs).  I've seen it as low as $2.84 in the last couple days.

It doesn't matter.  People will go fill up their car with $2.50 gas, and then tell a pollster that they hate Biden because gas is $4.50.  This country has just completely lost its grip on reality.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Biden approval ratings still suck, as they should

3.599 is a great price for Premium gas.  According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration that's the cheapest it's been since Biden took office, and down a full 50c from the averages last month before Biden took action.

I DID THAT!

[GeneralMacArthur]

I believe that Biden’s approval is merely stabilizing somewhere between the high thirties and low to mid forties or so. Fairly similar to Trump’s, actually.

No. Biden's is -6.6 on average right now in the 538 tracker. Trumps was -19 on this day in 2017.

Trump’s approvals on average were -6 to -15 or so. That is similar to Biden’s current levels of approval. And I won’t even get into the way certain polls are skewed.

Incidentally, I am also of the belief that the takes about Biden’s “rebound” will age rather poorly due to the all of the structural problems still remaining, but we shall see.

The only polls in the last two weeks showing Biden behind by double digits are all Rasmussen.  All the other polls have him somewhere in -4 to -8.

Trump was consistently -15 or lower in every single poll at this point in his presidency, and the only time he got up to where Biden is now was very briefly after he survived impeachment.

[GeneralMacArthur]

This thread is literally impossible to have a conversation in because of olawakandi spam.

I get you guys think this is cute but I wish we could actually talk about Biden's polling.

[GeneralMacArthur]

This thread is literally impossible to have a conversation in because of olawakandi spam.

I get you guys think this is cute but I wish we could actually talk about Biden's polling.

You know you don't have to post here.

Cool let me just go start another thread about an opinion poll and have it get merged into this one and drowned in olawakandi spam.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Stop arguing with Olawakandi oh my gosh 🙄

Russian Bear and Olawakandi arguing with each other and taking each other seriously, while I'm forced to watch, is my own private version of hell.

Fortunately I can just ignore this thread until I accidentally click on it once a week.

[GeneralMacArthur]

https://twitter.com/412ricefarmer/status/1494710205636042756?s=21

Jesus Christ

[GeneralMacArthur]

As I predicted, Biden's incredibly strong handling of the situation in Ukraine has only caused his approval rating to decline further, as Americans see images of dead Ukrainians on their TV screens and blame Biden for not somehow magically preventing all this from happening.

This stupid country deserves Trump.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I'm expecting Biden's approval to drop down to 35% now that he's having breakthrough success in Congress, passing a bunch of popular bipartisan legislation, and seeing drops in gas and food prices and the markets pointing back up.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The fact that Biden's approval rating remains unchanged despite this being by far the best week of his presidency just shows how worthless this metric is.  Democrats scored a huge electoral victory last night despite everyone supposedly hating Biden.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Biden's approval ratings are higher than ever.  Remember like six months ago when all the independent-thinking politics-knowers on the internet suddenly decided, in unison, to agree that Ron Klain was the reason Biden's approval ratings were so low, and demanded his head?  The "Klain must go" talk faded away as quickly as it started.  Just goes to show what a bunch of nitwits the political chattering class is.