Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

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God help us if this moron gets the nomination

Joe Biden is worried the Republican Party might get 'clobbered.'

"It’s not like there’s going to be some great epiphany and people are going to wake up and go, 'oh my God, I'm now a Democrat.' And if you hear people on the rope line saying, ‘I'm a Republican,’ I say, ‘Stay a Republican.’ Vote for me but stay a Republican, because we need a Republican Party."

He later added that he's concerned about what would happen if the Republican Party was totally "clobbered."

"I'm really worried that no party should have too much power," he said. "You need a countervailing force."

I'm tempted to say Biden at this point is worse than Trump--while the Republican government is essentially evil at this point, Biden sees this evil, acknowledges it (by running against it) and still thinks it's an acceptable thing we should keep around.

He is. I never thought I’d say this, but if it’s between Bernie and Biden, I will refuse to vote for Biden in the general election. Giving any more credence to the Republicans as a legimitate party that is capable of governing would be worse than letting Trump get a second term to further destroy the GOP brand.

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Joe Biden thinking that the Republicans don’t deserve to be taught a lesson for their embrace of a proto-fascist because he thinks politics has to be nice and fair is downright embarrassing. This is the same guy who gave a eulogy for Strom Thurmond and proudly proclaimed that Delaware was a slave state. He’s a joke of a candidate if he truly believes what he said.

In all fairness....he was saying the same thing about the GOP during Watergate back in 1973:

https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1203704068339834880

https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1203705111488483328

https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1203706710331969541

Also....let's not forget....Watergate was actually #BothSides fault:

https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1203705673734918144

But dont worry....this time it'll be different! Uncle Joe is just pretending to be for bipartisanship.

HOW DARE HE!!!!!

Saying a 1 party state is bad? WTF IS THIS MAN SMOKING

The only TRUE debate remaining is whether the "normal" Trumplicans (he-he I'm so funny) should be simply re-educated or arrested. For the rest, NO MERCY!!! TRAITOR MOSCOW MITCH TO THE GUILLOTINE!!!

One party rule would indeed be far better than letting the Republican Party share power

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God help us if this moron gets the nomination

Joe Biden is worried the Republican Party might get 'clobbered.'

"It’s not like there’s going to be some great epiphany and people are going to wake up and go, 'oh my God, I'm now a Democrat.' And if you hear people on the rope line saying, ‘I'm a Republican,’ I say, ‘Stay a Republican.’ Vote for me but stay a Republican, because we need a Republican Party."

He later added that he's concerned about what would happen if the Republican Party was totally "clobbered."

"I'm really worried that no party should have too much power," he said. "You need a countervailing force."

I'm tempted to say Biden at this point is worse than Trump--while the Republican government is essentially evil at this point, Biden sees this evil, acknowledges it (by running against it) and still thinks it's an acceptable thing we should keep around.

He is. I never thought I’d say this, but if it’s between Bernie and Biden, I will refuse to vote for Biden in the general election. Giving any more credence to the Republicans as a legimitate party that is capable of governing would be worse than letting Trump get a second term to further destroy the GOP brand.

Between Bernie and Biden? Did you mean Trump?

I’m operating under the assumption that the primaries unfold between Bernie and Biden. I prefer a re-elected Trump w/Democratic House to a useless four-year Biden Presidency, and it’s not even a close call. If the Supreme Court was at stake, my opinion would be different, but we’re already f—ked on that front anyway.

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I have zero interest in a Biden Presidency with a Republican senate that will inevitably block every single one of his appointments no matter what, even as he bends back over heels to cater to them. Hopefully enough Democrats agree with me for it not have to come to to a choice of lesser evils.

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I have zero interest in a Biden Presidency with a Republican senate that will inevitably block every single one of his appointments no matter what, even as he bends back over heels to cater to them. Hopefully enough Democrats agree with me for it not have to come to to a choice of lesser evils.

Unfortunately a lot of people buy this type of stuff, especially considering those voting for Biden like him due to him being moderate and associated with Obama.

There’s a big difference between catering to right-leaning voters and catering to an openly hostile Congressional GOP. Look at JBE for how to successfully do the former without being stupid enough to do the latter like Biden wants to.

I will do my part and hope that in the event Biden is unfortunately the nominee that he does just well enough for Democrats to make gains in Congress and the Senate while still barely losing overall. A Trump second-term with a looming six-year itch Election would do far more to advance the Progressive agenda than anything Biden would be able or willing to do.

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Honestly, if it’s between a Trump presidency with a Democratic Congress and a Biden presidency with a Republican Senate, I’d almost certainly take the latter.

So I take it that if you were in my shoes you would be sympathetic to my argument

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I have zero interest in a Biden Presidency with a Republican senate that will inevitably block every single one of his appointments no matter what, even as he bends back over heels to cater to them. Hopefully enough Democrats agree with me for it not have to come to to a choice of lesser evils.

Unfortunately a lot of people buy this type of stuff, especially considering those voting for Biden like him due to him being moderate and associated with Obama.

There’s a big difference between catering to right-leaning voters and catering to an openly hostile Congressional GOP. Look at JBE for how to successfully do the former without being stupid enough to do the latter like Biden wants to.

I will do my part and hope that in the event Biden is unfortunately the nominee that he does just well enough for Democrats to make gains in Congress and the Senate while still barely losing overall. A Trump second-term with a looming six-year itch Election would do far more to advance the Progressive agenda than anything Biden would be able or willing to do.

IMO, a Biden presidency would be similar to if John Kerry had won in 2004: The Congress would of stayed in GOP hands blocking any legislation and Kerry would of been clobbered in 2008 over the recession leading to a landslide for the GOP.

I can't see anything good coming out of Biden winning particularly if the Senate doesnt flip and/or RBG passes and is replaced by Trump. The GOP will obstruct him while he begs for bipartisanship, followed by the inevitable Dem losses in the midterms like in 1994 and 2010. The GOP Congress will then vote to impeach him for the Ukraine scandal and then he loses in 2024.

That’s pretty much exactly how it will unfold if Biden wins, barring a huge Democratic wave in the Senate. It’s just not worth the cost. And just our luck too, there’ll probably be a recession in a Biden term, and Democrats will get destroyed like freaking 1980 come 2024

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I have zero interest in a Biden Presidency with a Republican senate that will inevitably block every single one of his appointments no matter what, even as he bends back over heels to cater to them. Hopefully enough Democrats agree with me for it not have to come to to a choice of lesser evils.

Unfortunately a lot of people buy this type of stuff, especially considering those voting for Biden like him due to him being moderate and associated with Obama.

There’s a big difference between catering to right-leaning voters and catering to an openly hostile Congressional GOP. Look at JBE for how to successfully do the former without being stupid enough to do the latter like Biden wants to.

I will do my part and hope that in the event Biden is unfortunately the nominee that he does just well enough for Democrats to make gains in Congress and the Senate while still barely losing overall. A Trump second-term with a looming six-year itch Election would do far more to advance the Progressive agenda than anything Biden would be able or willing to do.

IMO, a Biden presidency would be similar to if John Kerry had won in 2004: The Congress would of stayed in GOP hands blocking any legislation and Kerry would of been clobbered in 2008 over the recession leading to a landslide for the GOP.

I can't see anything good coming out of Biden winning particularly if the Senate doesnt flip and/or RBG passes and is replaced by Trump. The GOP will obstruct him while he begs for bipartisanship, followed by the inevitable Dem losses in the midterms like in 1994 and 2010. The GOP Congress will then vote to impeach him for the Ukraine scandal and then he loses in 2024.

That’s pretty much exactly how it will unfold if Biden wins, barring a huge Democratic wave in the Senate. It’s just not worth the cost. And just our luck too, there’ll probably be a recession in a Biden term, and Democrats will get destroyed like freaking 1980 come 2024

and if Warren wins and there is a Republican Senate or at best 50-51 Dem senators how would that change things anymore lol.


In that cause 2024 still would be 1980

At least with her she’d have the metaphorical balls to make recess appointments and Executive Orders. Biden almost certainly would not. Not that I have much faith in her to get much passed through Congress either, especially if Democrats have to rely on Manchin and Sinema to get stuff through the Senate.

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You people saying you wouldn't support Biden in the general, because your fantasy of a Trump second term is preferable to your strawman of a Biden presidency, are idiots.

Absolute.  F***ing.  Idiots.

You don't deserve the right to vote.  You are too stupid to participate in democracy.

We dont deserve the right to vote if we dont vote for who you tell us to vote for? How is that democracy? Great logic you imbicile

We don't let children vote, because they are incapable of logical thinking or reasoning about the future with any semblance of maturity or rationality.

If you call yourself a progressive, but would vote for Trump over Biden (or help Trump in some other way, by voting third party of staying home), and your reasoning is something utterly asinine like

I prefer a re-elected Trump w/Democratic House to a useless four-year Biden Presidency, and it’s not even a close call.

then you should not be voting, because you are so stupid that you are basically a child.

I don't care who you support in the primary.  Go waste your vote on Marianne Williamson for all I care.  But I can't believe the election is a year out and we're already hearing from these perennial Sarandonite idiots bragging about how they'll proudly be helping Trump next year by being too pure to vote for the Democratic nominee (if it's Biden).  I can't believe I'm the only one on this forum telling these people where they can shove their purity politics.

I’m far from a purist. I would gladly vote for a Democrat who doesn’t share my views on many things. I’d vote for Collin Peterson if I lived in his district. Or Joe Manchin. But the one thing I won’t bend on is endorsing a Democrat for President that thinks bipartisanship with a hostile Republican Congress is something we should strive for. Especially one who WANTS people to keep voting for these Republican anarchists! We’ve been there and done that way too many times to see how that movie ends.

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You people saying you wouldn't support Biden in the general, because your fantasy of a Trump second term is preferable to your strawman of a Biden presidency, are idiots.

Absolute.  F***ing.  Idiots.

You don't deserve the right to vote.  You are too stupid to participate in democracy.

We dont deserve the right to vote if we dont vote for who you tell us to vote for? How is that democracy? Great logic you imbicile

We don't let children vote, because they are incapable of logical thinking or reasoning about the future with any semblance of maturity or rationality.

If you call yourself a progressive, but would vote for Trump over Biden (or help Trump in some other way, by voting third party of staying home), and your reasoning is something utterly asinine like

I prefer a re-elected Trump w/Democratic House to a useless four-year Biden Presidency, and it’s not even a close call.

then you should not be voting, because you are so stupid that you are basically a child.

I don't care who you support in the primary.  Go waste your vote on Marianne Williamson for all I care.  But I can't believe the election is a year out and we're already hearing from these perennial Sarandonite idiots bragging about how they'll proudly be helping Trump next year by being too pure to vote for the Democratic nominee (if it's Biden).  I can't believe I'm the only one on this forum telling these people where they can shove their purity politics.

I’m far from a purist. I would gladly vote for a Democrat who doesn’t share my views on many things. I’d vote for Collin Peterson if I lived in his district. Or Joe Manchin. But the one thing I won’t bend on is endorsing a Democrat for President that thinks bipartisanship with a hostile Republican Congress is something we should strive for. Especially one who WANTS people to keep voting for these Republican anarchists! We’ve been there and done that way too many times to see how that movie ends.

Oh I get it, you're just trolling.

Go back to AAD.

I am dead serious, Biden would leave the Democratic Party in a worse position than Carter left it.

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I live in my dad’s attic thank you very much

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Black voters in places like Lancaster, SC don't care about any of this mess and will be selecting Joseph R. Biden on February 29.

So what? SC won't matter if Bernie wins IA/NH/NV.

Sure Jan.

He has a point though. If Bernie wins the first three contests (as is looking increasingly likely), he’ll probably get an ensuing bump in SC as well, as normally happens when winners of the early contest seize on the momentum. He probably won’t win it, but cutting down Biden’s win in SC from 40 points to 20 or less would go a long way.

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otherwise Tom Steyer will run against her in 2022 and probably beat her

Sure Jan.

Kamala will be endorsing if Biden rolls through the first three. Maybe even as a part of a CBC push to block Bernie Sanders who has touted the support of a known racist pig.

Didn’t you hate Biden just a short while ago? Why the sudden change of heart/if it’s because you prefer him to Sanders, why not someone who is moderate without the baggage like Klobuchar?

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Lulz

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1222258335342366721?s=19

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1222269273814511621?s=19

Do people really feel confident with this guy in the GE?

Apparently the idiots that run the DNC feel like he’s the safe bet, which should tell you all you need to know

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The difference in Biden and Sanders’ leads against Trump in Jose polls is statistically insignificant and a statistician of Morris’s background is negligent not to mention that

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The difference in Biden and Sanders’ leads against Trump in Jose polls is statistically insignificant and a statistician of Morris’s background is negligent not to mention that

The fact that Biden consistently does 1-2 better than Bernie in pretty much EVERY poll though, and usually better than that median when there is a discrepancy, DOES point to it being statistically significant. Also the fact that Biden's "undecideds" are far more favorable to him than Bernie's are, as Bernie has consolidated the younger vote to an extent Biden has not yet.

I don’t know what stats class you took, but that is still not a conclusion supported by statistically significant empirical data

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Biden is triaging New Hampshire. Which is not something one would do if they think they’ll win Iowa.

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Yikes. Yeah, this clown isn’t going to “rebound”, even with an underwhelming South Carolina win. The perceived Teflon has been eroded off with an embarrassing 4-5th place finish

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Biden definitely isn't "done", but he really needs to win SC by a lot, and I think NV could be a problem for him, given how poor his organization seemed in this caucus, and that Sanders will have less competition.

I think if he achieves any less than one of these single results, he’s toast:

NH: 3rd
NV: 2nd
SC: 1st

In fairness, I don't think that's impossible

If you take out the big outlier in NH in Biden’s favor,  I’d say it’s more likely he finishes another 4th in NH than 2nd.

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[img width=760 height=760]https://i.ibb.co/hMTqwQy/vote-for

Last time I checked, 15.9 rounds up to 16%.

Are you going to be changing your username anytime soon

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https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/1228818198386106380

About time

I hereby demand he take responsibility and condemn the actions of his supporter General MacArthur on USElectionAtlas

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Continuing to get déjà vu here

Same. The only redeeming factor is that Biden is a lot more liked than Clinton was