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ChrisFromNJ
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« on: May 06, 2008, 04:23:43 PM »

isnt't 1/3 black in NC incredibly low? or is that just my impression?

33% is lower than expected if that is the final number. Hillary can come within 5 if she wins 65% of the white vote.
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ChrisFromNJ
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 04:36:57 PM »

In North Carolina, Clinton voters would go 45-38 Obama.  Not much help to the topline but interesting.

isnt't 1/3 black in NC incredibly low? or is that just my impression?

33% is lower than expected if that is the final number. Hillary can come within 5 if she wins 65% of the white vote.

Again, early voters were much more black.  You must factor them in.

They were likely included into the exit polls, just like they have been in every state.
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ChrisFromNJ
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 04:41:09 PM »

They were likely included into the exit polls, just like they have been in every state.

Uh...no?  I doubt that.  They didn't do it in California, and it showed.

They usually only do that with Washington and Oregon because the vast majority of votes there are VBM.  And if they do it, it's all a phone poll.

I don't see what's led you to believe early voters are included in exit polls.

Exit polls that came out before the results came in showed Hillary winning California by close to double digits. And that is ultimately by how much she won California.
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ChrisFromNJ
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 06:41:39 PM »

This racial divide is absolutely absurd. Obama is winning 92% of the black vote. Imagine if Hillary won 92% of the white vote? There would be day and night segments on CNN and MSNBC about how racist North Carolina was..
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ChrisFromNJ
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 06:52:53 PM »

This racial divide is absolutely absurd. Obama is winning 92% of the black vote. Imagine if Hillary won 92% of the white vote? There would be day and night segments on CNN and MSNBC about how racist North Carolina was..

Imagine that Hillary Clinton were the first serious white candidate to ever run for President. Imagine that you, as a fifty-year-old white man, grew up being called a "cracker" and refused jobs because of your skin color. Imagine that you suddenly felt that maybe there was some chance that such things wouldn't happen to other white people in the future if only you could get a white person elected President and show the black majority that white people weren't lazy and incompetent criminals.

Then it wouldn't be so racist, would it?

What a crock of sh**t. We'd hear the Obama campaign cry wolf if Hillary won 90% of the white vote.
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