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« on: April 05, 2016, 01:22:57 PM »


YOWZERS!

Great news!
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2016, 02:11:39 PM »

I think it's probably going to be a good night.

Solid optimism, EH.  We need dat mo' heading into the The Battle For NY and the Brooklyn Bloodbath.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 02:39:22 PM »

From BenchmarkPolitics

"Indications that Clinton may outperform her benchmarks in Milwaukee, but Sanders well could outperform everywhere else. "

And

"Early indications are that Clinton is doing VERY well in Milwaukee - could help her keep down Sanders margins. Sanders seems to be doing very well in the smaller, whiter areas of Wisconsin. Neither of this was unexpected."

So nothing shocking or unexpected as of yet.


Milwaukee Proper is only providing around 10% of the vote in the Dem primary.  

GREAT news to Mr. Sanders ears!
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 02:51:03 PM »

It'll be interesting to see what percentage of the black vote Bernie can grab here. I would think that he might have a shot at beating the 30% he got in IL but who knows...

If he got almost 1/3 in MI and IL I'd expect the same in Cheeseland.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 04:25:58 PM »


Yowza wowza!

Proud European-Americans are certainly feelin' the Bern!
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 07:01:20 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 07:15:47 PM »

It's gonna be fun in June when Hockeydude has to admit that his beloved New Jersey is part of the Confederacy.

We have dated, oppressive, voter suppression laws having to do with having to declare party affiliation or some such nonsense.  I don't really count them as legitimate.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 07:19:28 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts

I wouldn't exactly say she did "great" there. She won by a point.

And Bernie certainly didnt do that great in the primary states of NH, OK, VT, WI, and MI... I guess.  

I love the smuggness of Hillary supporters.  Wasn't this supposed to be some Gore 2000-type coronation?  SAD!  
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 07:21:43 PM »

Walker needs some good ol' fashioned H, D, and Q.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 07:26:10 PM »

It's gonna be fun in June when Hockeydude has to admit that his beloved New Jersey is part of the Confederacy.

We have dated, oppressive, voter suppression laws having to do with having to declare party affiliation or some such nonsense.  I don't really count them as legitimate.

Weird that your state only lets Democrats vote for the Democratic nominee. Really hard to understand the logic behind that one.

It is weird.  Why would the state need me to permenantly declare a party affil. in order to go into a booth and press a button?  They don't have a lot to do with each other.  That's just physics.
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 07:28:20 PM »

All contests should be primaries and they should be open to anyone. Closed primaries are just as undemocratic as caucuses.

It opens you up to ratfyucking though. Imagine if Trump ran in 2012 when Obama was unopposed. Dems would've been crossing over en masse to support him.

Anyone can switch.  They just make it difficult and vague.  An undue burden and then tax everybody to hold it.  Is the primary a democratic process or a beauty contest for the party?  Pick one. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2016, 07:41:43 PM »


I think people are missing the big picture here - The Dem base is becoming much more liberal & progressive & the entire country is to an extent. It is a shift!

I mean this has nothing to do with Sanders or anyone1 - But strong Progressive candidates would do well in the future as well!

Yeah... You hope.  Hillary and her establishment cronies can certainly throw a wrench into all that in a hurry, though.  They'll pretend to be leftists if that what's necessary.  Hopefully Obama continues to be the de facto leader of the Democrats.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 07:46:55 PM »


I think people are missing the big picture here - The Dem base is becoming much more liberal & progressive & the entire country is to an extent. It is a shift!

I mean this has nothing to do with Sanders or anyone1 - But strong Progressive candidates would do well in the future as well!

Yeah... You hope.  Hillary and her establishment cronies can certainly throw a wrench into all that in a hurry, though.  They'll pretend to be leftists if that what's necessary.  Hopefully Obama continues to be the de facto leader of the Democrats.

You can't seriously believe Obama is significantly more liberal than Hillary...

**** liberals.  Obama is clearly more leftist and concerned for the working class.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 07:52:32 PM »

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I think people are missing the big picture here - The Dem base is becoming much more liberal & progressive & the entire country is to an extent. It is a shift!

I mean this has nothing to do with Sanders or anyone1 - But strong Progressive candidates would do well in the future as well!

Yeah... You hope.  Hillary and her establishment cronies can certainly throw a wrench into all that in a hurry, though.  They'll pretend to be leftists if that what's necessary.  Hopefully Obama continues to be the de facto leader of the Democrats.

You can't seriously believe Obama is significantly more liberal than Hillary...

I think they forget 2008 ...

They don't forget anything. They're just sexists.

LOLief.  Go dig up the posts I was making before we had a better option where I was saying that I've never liked Hillary but I could mostly overlook that to have the first female President.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 07:58:44 PM »


GREAT NEWS!  Highly respected.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2016, 08:15:06 PM »

Is it true that Sanders doesn't not actively support other democratic candidates, like they are saying on CNN?

Is he obligated to?  They don't support him.  They actually actively and openly try to sabotage him.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2016, 08:17:49 PM »

CNN has the knives out for Bernie tonight!

Luckily the Bernie Revolution isn't shooting for non-political junkies who would actually turn on CNN.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2016, 10:12:10 PM »

Hillary's sabre-rattlers over at PPP have her down 6? 

Looks like my 56-43 Sanders prediction is going to be right on the money.  The Northwest of Cheeseville is LOVING the Bern. 

^ sexy prognostication from yours truly.  I'm on the rolls!
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2016, 10:32:11 PM »

Weaver is claiming Democrats will have an open convention.

Ugh... I can only hope such hell is raised in Philly.
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