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« Reply #150 on: April 05, 2016, 06:38:27 PM »


Looks good for Hillary

one quarter of the electorate over 65

63% of the electorate over 45

For reference, in Michigan, it was:
18-29: 19%
30-44: 26%
45-64: 35%
65+: 20%

In Wisconsin in 2008, it was:
18-29: 16%
30-44: 22%
45-59: 34%
60+: 29%
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« Reply #151 on: April 05, 2016, 06:39:26 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
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« Reply #152 on: April 05, 2016, 06:42:20 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?

If these exit polls are correct, the high number of older voters would be a big factor. We'll have to wait for the revised exit polls later tonight to know for sure what the key areas of interest are.
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« Reply #153 on: April 05, 2016, 06:42:32 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?

Because he's losing nationally. In a landslide. Clinton will have won the popular vote by double digits when the primary is over.
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« Reply #154 on: April 05, 2016, 06:43:24 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?

Wisconsin Dems race is covered as if it's all Dane County. Sanders will, indeed, win a blowout here... but the rest of the state is far less liberal, and quite a bit older, on average.
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« Reply #155 on: April 05, 2016, 06:46:33 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.
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« Reply #156 on: April 05, 2016, 06:55:54 PM »

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« Reply #157 on: April 05, 2016, 07:01:20 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.
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« Reply #158 on: April 05, 2016, 07:02:41 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.
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« Reply #159 on: April 05, 2016, 07:03:09 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

If by "the South" you mean everything south of the Michigan-Ohio border, sure.
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« Reply #160 on: April 05, 2016, 07:03:27 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts
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« Reply #161 on: April 05, 2016, 07:04:52 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts

And Illinois and Nevada.
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« Reply #162 on: April 05, 2016, 07:05:40 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts

And Illinois and Nevada.

I was just counting the double digit wins... but fair points all around.
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« Reply #163 on: April 05, 2016, 07:05:57 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts

I wouldn't exactly say she did "great" there. She won by a point.
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« Reply #164 on: April 05, 2016, 07:06:07 PM »

It's gonna be fun in June when Hockeydude has to admit that his beloved New Jersey is part of the Confederacy.
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« Reply #165 on: April 05, 2016, 07:08:55 PM »

If Bernie only wins by a low single-digit margin, it could be because of high turnout in Milwaukee, him underperforming in Madison, Clinton winning the Green Bay area, or possibly Wisconsinite liking Sanders but being somewhat hesitant to vote for him (like in Ohio).

It's useless to try and dissect potential results, though. Only an hour before we start getting some real results!
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« Reply #166 on: April 05, 2016, 07:12:01 PM »

So many lines, especially at universities, thank you Walker!
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« Reply #167 on: April 05, 2016, 07:13:11 PM »

So many lines, especially at universities, thank you Walker!

I wonder how many people are getting there and being told they cant vote because they dont have proper ID. What a nightmare.
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« Reply #168 on: April 05, 2016, 07:15:47 PM »

It's gonna be fun in June when Hockeydude has to admit that his beloved New Jersey is part of the Confederacy.

We have dated, oppressive, voter suppression laws having to do with having to declare party affiliation or some such nonsense.  I don't really count them as legitimate.
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« Reply #169 on: April 05, 2016, 07:16:50 PM »

So many lines, especially at universities, thank you Walker!

I wonder how many people are getting there and being told they cant vote because they dont have proper ID. What a nightmare.

And of course because of how this campaign is going, their first thought will be to blame the DNC and the Clinton campaign, and not Scott Walker. Just something to consider.
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« Reply #170 on: April 05, 2016, 07:17:29 PM »

So many lines, especially at universities, thank you Walker!

I wonder how many people are getting there and being told they cant vote because they dont have proper ID. What a nightmare.

The problem is that poll workers don't even know some of the rules/laws. I've heard some stories of people getting turned away because their ID doesn't match their current address. It doesn't have to be, it just has to be a valid ID. Once they get the person in charge things are usually straightened out, but it takes time.
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« Reply #171 on: April 05, 2016, 07:18:31 PM »

Just saw on MSNBC some people have been waiting for several hours. This is pure insanity.
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« Reply #172 on: April 05, 2016, 07:19:28 PM »

Am I the only one who has been surprised the polls have been showing this so close? Wisconsin seems like a tailor made state for Bernie, except for the fact that it's a primary rather than a caucus. Even then, it's an open primary.

It's still very possible the polls were junk and he'll win in a blowout, but if this is a single digit race...any theories?
Sanders just doesn't do that well outside of caucuses.  Wisconsin would be only his fifth primary win so far, and even then he only really got blowouts in the upper New England primaries.

And Queen Hillary just doesn't do that great outside of the South.

Except in Ohio and Arizona.

And Massachusetts

I wouldn't exactly say she did "great" there. She won by a point.

And Bernie certainly didnt do that great in the primary states of NH, OK, VT, WI, and MI... I guess.  

I love the smuggness of Hillary supporters.  Wasn't this supposed to be some Gore 2000-type coronation?  SAD!  
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« Reply #173 on: April 05, 2016, 07:20:51 PM »

It's gonna be fun in June when Hockeydude has to admit that his beloved New Jersey is part of the Confederacy.

We have dated, oppressive, voter suppression laws having to do with having to declare party affiliation or some such nonsense.  I don't really count them as legitimate.

Weird that your state only lets Democrats vote for the Democratic nominee. Really hard to understand the logic behind that one.
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« Reply #174 on: April 05, 2016, 07:21:43 PM »

Walker needs some good ol' fashioned H, D, and Q.
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