Progressive Liberal Party Convention

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San Francisco, since that's where the Progressive Convention is. Of course, that from a homer.

Glad to see this finally here. The PLP should gain 2 seats this election and could win a third. My hopes are high.

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As a delegate to the Progressive Convention, I really would rather not fly across the country. Let's take a vote.

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How does someone become a delegate?

The PLP convention will not have delegates. However, you can be one of mine at the Progressive Primary convention if you'd like.

Great, thanks.

I'm also a delegate of Polnut's, which, I guess, makes me yours.

May I be permitted to hold the floor for a brief address?

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How does someone become a delegate?

The PLP convention will not have delegates. However, you can be one of mine at the Progressive Primary convention if you'd like.

Great, thanks.

I'm also a delegate of Polnut's, which, I guess, makes me yours.

May I be permitted to hold the floor for a brief address?

by all means. After the convention starts tomorrow, though.

Since Baltimore is winning by a huge margin, can we just start it now?

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Okay.

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Can I consider the speech I'm going to make the keynote?

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PLP Endorsement Ballot

-President/ Vice President

Senator Sensei* / Lt Governor Rockefeller Republican
Vice President Jas/ Senator Moderate
Keystone Phil/ Senator Ebowed
Willy Woz/ Governor Inks LWC

-Northeast Governor

Attorney General Hashemite
Judge AndrewCT

- Northeast Senate

Senator Verily, PPT

- Mideast Senate

MasterJedi
MeekerMariner*

- Midwest Senate

Senator Speed of Sound
Hughento

- Southeast Senate

Cookies and Milk*

- Pacific Senate

Senator Friz
Xahar*

* Denotes PLP member

Start voting at Midnight Eastern

This ballot is preliminary until midnight.

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First, to start, I would like to say what an honor it is to be here in this great city. Though I spearheaded the opposition to the choice of Baltimore as the convention site, in fact, I was the opposition to the choice of Baltimore as the convention site, and I had to hurriedly catch a flight across the country, as can be seen by my somewhat ruffled suit, I know and love this city (outside of August). But, we have more pressing issues at hand today: electing a PLP president and Senate.

Today is the day of the Progressive Liberals; the future is bright. May it hold many more happy days of victory! In the Southeast, Cookies and Milk is running unopposed. In the Mideast, the progressive heartland, Meekermariner is an odds-on favorite to win. In the Pacific, I foresee a victory for myself. But this is not enough.

Of course, we need to elect a president. And, therefore, I wholeheartedly endorse the Sensei/Rocky ticket. But we must do more. We must introduce real progressive change, to live up to our name.

Therefore, I propose something truly radical: the abolition of the cabinet. Today, the SoFA does much work, while the SoEA and AG do almost none. Therefore, the powers of all three shall be given to the Vice President, assisted by the Chief of Staff, nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. This will eliminate governmental waste, and allow us to concentrate the positive power of government on real endeavors. Is that not worth a change?

But, we must go further. We must create a Progressive Caucus in the Senate, and a broader Progressive Association, open to all, to determine whether bills meet the progressive ideals, and to educate the public. Then, and only then, will the Republic of Atlasia find the Holy Grail.

Thank you, and Dave bless the great Republic of Atlasia.

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PLP Endorsement Ballot

-President/ Vice President

Senator Sensei* / Lt Governor Rockefeller Republican
Vice President Jas/ Senator Moderate
Keystone Phil/ Senator Ebowed
Willy Woz/ Governor Inks LWC

-Northeast Governor

Attorney General Hashemite
Judge AndrewCT

- Northeast Senate

Senator Verily, PPT

- Mideast Senate

MasterJedi
MeekerMariner*

- Midwest Senate

Senator Speed of Sound
Hughento

- Southeast Senate

Cookies and Milk*

- Pacific Senate

Senator Friz
Xahar*

* Denotes PLP member

Start voting at Midnight Eastern

This ballot is preliminary until midnight.

Now official.

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Is self-nomination bad form?

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I also endorse Lief for Lt. Governor of the Northeast.

As do I.

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Chairman, may I be permitted to respond to the Governor's speech?

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First of all I would like to welcome all of you here to the Mideast for our Convention.  As Governor of this region I hope that everyone will enjoy themselves, maybe give this city a little bit of business and just all and all make this convention successful.

Now on to the issue at hand, the Vice Chairmanship of the party.  I wish to make sure everyone knows that my being in the contest for the position is not me saying Xahar would not be good at the job.  I am sure that as an active PLPer and Atlasian he would be great for the post.  However I also wish to try my hand at the job and believe I would be quite qualified myself.

This is one thing that I, too, wish to stress. HappyWarrior is a great Atlasian and a qualified governor. However, I feel that the same is true for me.

I have been a part of the party since my entree to Atlasia, a long time ago during the time when Texasgurl was the party Chairperson.  Since then I have been an active member of the party.  I have always said I am further to our party's center than the party's name suggests, much like our honorable chairman Sensei.

This is where we disagree. I have not been around nearly as long as the Governor has, and I consider myself more to the left. This would contrast well with the more centrist Chairman, and balance the party leadership.

As to Xahar's proposals, I am personally againest both.  In terms of a progressive caucus(I'm assuming you mean in the senate) what would be the purpose?  Most of the members of the Senate are either members of the progressive caucus that includes all registered voters who wish to join it or vote as progressives anyway.  What would such a caucus accomplish in the long run?

The Governor's comments suggest that he has misunderstood me. I realize that my wording was somewhat vague, so I will now try to restate my case.

I think the progressive primaries and the upcoming progressive convention show us what a broader progressive organization, uniting all left-of-center voters, can do. I wish to turn the progressive organization into something working year-round, not just during election season. This will serve many purposes, not the least of which is an informative purpose. It will increase citizen participation, and prevent power from being concentrated in the hands of the proverbial "old boys club".

And in terms of the removal of the cabinet, the president and vice president are two men.  They cannot accomplish everything alone that needs to be done.  The cabinet members go over legal records, foreign relations, voter roles, update the wiki, and much more.  Leaving all of this to the Vice President would burden most men beyond their means, while at the same time having to deal with the senate.  This would exhaust any man, even Rocky beyond his means.  Giving all of this responsibility to two men(Or three if you include the CoS idea) is just unfair and will not work.

I do notmean to slander Al or Hashemite here, but I do not feel that they have done very much in their positions as members of the Cabinet. Rather, their contributions to Atlasia during the Wixted Administration have been in the capacity of citizen. On the other hand, the Secretary of Forum Affairs has had a great burden. Under my plan, this will be shared by the Vice President, who currently does not do much visible work (with emphasis on "visible"), and the Chief of Staff. I do not doubt if we have an energetic Vice President, which Rockefeller Republican will be, and an energetic Chief of Staff, which many of the people assembled at this convention would be, that the burden can be shouldered, and more.

As I said before I am not saying Xahar will make a bad Vice Chair, but I have after a long time begun to understand how Atlasia works and how hard it is to get things done.  I think such a thing would give me an advantage as Chairman and of course future president Sensei's #2 in the party.

I cannot say that I have been active longer than the Governor. However, in my time in Atlasia, I have ran one campaign and am running another, I have become active lobbying the Senate, and I have started a radio station. I do not believe that anyone can argue with my activity. In the end, it comes down to this: you can only gain experience by doing "stuff". I feel that I have done as much "stuff" in my first few months as anyone, and thus I feel that I am qualified for this position.

Thank you.

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I'll have to disagree with Xahar about the performance of the sitting cabinet. Al's DEAF program has been great for Atlasian foreign affairs, and Hashemite has handled the Keystone Phil affair competently. Lewis is doing his job as SoFA well, too.

I did not say they were doing a poor job; I said they did not have much opportunity to do work for Atlasia. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

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I'll have to disagree with Xahar about the performance of the sitting cabinet. Al's DEAF program has been great for Atlasian foreign affairs, and Hashemite has handled the Keystone Phil affair competently. Lewis is doing his job as SoFA well, too.

I did not say they were doing a poor job; I said they did not have much opportunity to do work for Atlasia. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

But the fact is that most of their jobs are behind the scenes in things like wiki updates and keeping Atlasia running smoothly.

Unfortunately, the wiki is not in top shape, and I daresay foreign affairs is quite peripheral to Atlasia’s day-to-day business.

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My words have been corrupted and perverted. I have nothing to say.

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My words have been corrupted and perverted. I have nothing to say.

Welcome to the politics right now in Atlasia. It simply seems to be the way that they want to do things right now on that side. You cant fight back. We have our people, and they will respect a clean fight and campaign, so brush them all off.

I'm trying.

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I thank this party for saying that Al, Lewis, and myself don't work as cabinet member. Al is doing something called a foreign policy review, Lewis is running something called an election, and I'm involved in something called a trial. 

People also fail to understand that updating the wiki is a collective responsibility of the community. Members should keep their personal pages and their political party pages up to date.

for the record, only Xahar has said anything about the cabinet being abolished. I think you guys are doing a great job, and if I am elected there will be no change in cabinet structure.

Just to let you know Hashemite this is not a view of the whole party, only certain members.  I myself feel that you have done a great job, as have Al and Lewis.

There. You clearly insinuate that I am criticizing the performance of the cabinet. I never said they were doing a poor job; I said that there was no need to have 3 people do it. Let's think of it this way.

What does the President do? Not that much, other than signing bills. Could he handle a few more responsibilities? Sure.

What about the Vice President? Would he crack if given the chance to do more? I don't think so.

There, we have accounted for much of the cabinet's work. But what about the SoFA? Is he overworked? Yes. Should his duties be split among several people? Yes.

When we throw a CoS into the mix, we have given each person a large but manageable amount of work. What is wrong with that?

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I thank this party for saying that Al, Lewis, and myself don't work as cabinet member. Al is doing something called a foreign policy review, Lewis is running something called an election, and I'm involved in something called a trial. 

People also fail to understand that updating the wiki is a collective responsibility of the community. Members should keep their personal pages and their political party pages up to date.

for the record, only Xahar has said anything about the cabinet being abolished. I think you guys are doing a great job, and if I am elected there will be no change in cabinet structure.

Just to let you know Hashemite this is not a view of the whole party, only certain members.  I myself feel that you have done a great job, as have Al and Lewis.

There. You clearly insinuate that I am criticizing the performance of the cabinet. I never said they were doing a poor job; I said that there was no need to have 3 people do it. Let's think of it this way.

What does the President do? Not that much, other than signing bills. Could he handle a few more responsibilities? Sure.

What about the Vice President? Would he crack if given the chance to do more? I don't think so.

There, we have accounted for much of the cabinet's work. But what about the SoFA? Is he overworked? Yes. Should his duties be split among several people? Yes.

When we throw a CoS into the mix, we have given each person a large but manageable amount of work. What is wrong with that?

They do so many things behind the scenes that they almost can not be counted.  You have often said that the cabinet members have done very little in their jobs.

I'm sure this is true, but could you provide me with some examples?

(Before you say I am "corrupting" your statements just look at your response to my speech "I do not feel that they have done very much in their positions as members of the Cabinet"), the fact is that your words were not corrupted.

Yes, they were. I said that I did not see them doing as much work inside their positions as outside. This has been taken to mean that I disapproved of the job they were doing.

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Aye

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Mr. Chairman I would like to inquire as to whether or not the current vote is still on the table?

If so, my vote is NAY.

It is, until midnight tomorrow.

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My fellow Progressives,

First off, I'm incredibly grateful to have you endorsement for the Mideast Senate race. I'm confident that we will hold Sen. Sensei's seat and continue to help make Atlasia better. Thank you, and I will not let you down.

I am relatively new to Atlasian politics and thus do not have such a long memory to harbor grudges or rivalries. I was drawn to serve Atlasia by the incredible knowledge and dedication of those who inhabit our great political environment, and I am honored to be among you all. I was particularly impressed with the strong record of the PLP and it was a very happy day when I joined out great party.

As you all probably have as well, I have noticed during this convention that we as a party have become divided on two issues - the vice-chair race and the abolition of the cabinet. Both decisions seem to split into roughly similar camps  - the younger, ambitious members on one side and the old, powerful guard on the other side. I personally feel torn here. One camp originally recruited me to Atlasia, while the other camp is of leaders whom I respect from my home region - the greatest region in Atlasia.

Discussion amongst the party is good and makes us stronger. But I urge our party to unite and set aside our differences once this convention ends. We all share the same vision for Atlasia, and we all share the most important goal right now - electing Sensei the next President of the Atlasian Republic. There is much more that unites us than divides us, and I hope that I and other members do not have to make the unfortunate decision of picking between two factions - all I want to pick is my party, and I proudly pick the Progressive Liberal Party.

Long Live the PLP, Long Live Sensei, and Long Live Atlasia!

I agree wholeheartedly with the valuable sentiments expressed by the Future Senator, though his conclusion is slightly monarchical.

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though his conclusion is slightly monarchical.

I call it commitment

Long Live Sensei?

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though his conclusion is slightly monarchical.

I call it commitment

Long Live Sensei?

Would you prefer him to live for a short amount of time?

Ah...well...you got me.

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You are voting for Sensei/Rocky not just Sensei

You don't belong here. Go away.