Opinion of Turkey?

[dead0man]

HC, for the myriad of big and obvious reasons.

It's interesting to note that the FC voters have given very very few actual reasons for their vote.

[dead0man]

HC, for the myriad of big and obvious reasons.

It's interesting to note that the FC voters have given very very few actual reasons for their vote.

It has an insanely deep and ancient history, İstanbul is one of the world's great cities, it has excellent music and cuisine, insanely beautiful places, and I know quite a few lovely Turkish people.

Plenty of things to be unhappy about of course but to be honest most of them apply to many other countries too.

so do the good things you mentioned.  You could say the same things about Iran, Russia or Best Korea.

[dead0man]

oh, I see your FC:HC scale is almost all FC.  That's fine.

To me, I make a guess as to whether the current nation's govt/voters are better than average or not.  Turkey is certainly in the middle somewhere, but their actions towards several other people's (Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Jews) in the region clearly puts them below the line, IMHO.

[dead0man]

HC, for the myriad of big and obvious reasons.

It's interesting to note that the FC voters have given very very few actual reasons for their vote.

It has an insanely deep and ancient history, İstanbul is one of the world's great cities, it has excellent music and cuisine, insanely beautiful places, and I know quite a few lovely Turkish people.

Plenty of things to be unhappy about of course but to be honest most of them apply to many other countries too.

so do the good things you mentioned.  You could say the same things about Iran, Russia or Best Korea.

Correct. This is meaningful because you cannot of course however, say the same about many countries, such as Canada.

even this guy gets why such an FC:HC scale is so silly.  If you give every country with a rich history FC and those without HC, you end up with a stupid list that has good countries like Canada on the HC list and garbage tier countries like the PRC on the FC list.  Even Chinese people know this, it's why there are so many of them in Canada (and so few Canadians in the PRC).