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« Reply #300 on: March 31, 2009, 03:39:28 AM »
« edited: March 31, 2009, 03:44:20 AM by VP Meeker »
Everyone down there is involved in politics for one of three reasons: 1) They're farmers, 2) They're religious, or 3) They're Hispanic. The first two groups are Republicans and the third group isn't going to win the support of more than 40-45% of the district, so...

If we really tried I'm sure we could find some nice, middle-aged farmer type who was friendly with Hispanics. But no one in Olympia gives a flying f**ck about doing that.

Also, if one of those were to appear on their own, they're screwed. People down there associate the word "Democrat" with people like Christine Gregoire and Patty Murray and such. Our hypothetical "15th District Democrat" has no way to communicate his message to people that he's not like that. There's no fundraising base down there and, again, no one in Olympia gives a flying f**ck.

There are exceptions (the 8th District race and 14th District race this past year come to mind), but those were still pretty urban races. Rural races are anathema to the HDCC.

EDIT: I might want to add "Ron Paulites" to that first group of three. But that's a new development.
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« Reply #301 on: March 31, 2009, 04:31:03 AM »
Quote from: bgwah on March 31, 2009, 04:07:50 AM
Patty Murray hasn't done too horribly down there.

Yea, not the best example. I couldn't think up another name off the top of my head for "typical western Washington liberal Democrat" besides Gregoire.
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« Reply #302 on: April 04, 2009, 11:33:27 PM »
There might be a revolt next week amongst House Democrats re: Worker Privacy Act. Stay tuned...
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« Reply #303 on: April 07, 2009, 01:34:19 AM »
If it's just on the rich, maybe. If it's coupled with a sales tax reduction/elimination, maybe.

On the population as a whole on its own? No way.
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« Reply #304 on: April 07, 2009, 01:52:43 AM »
Quote from: bgwah on April 07, 2009, 01:39:31 AM
Quote from: VP Meeker on April 07, 2009, 01:34:19 AM
If it's just on the rich, maybe. If it's coupled with a sales tax reduction/elimination, maybe.

On the population as a whole on its own? No way.

It would be worth considering if it eliminated the state sales tax.

Otherwise it seems like a waste of time to discuss it. Not to mention political suicide for the Democrats for no good reason...

I agree. Most Washingtonians would actually see a tax cut if we were to switch from a sales tax to an income tax.
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« Reply #305 on: April 07, 2009, 04:22:41 AM »
Something to keep in mind is that a lot of Brown's rhetoric in recent days and weeks could be routed in her 2012 desires. An income tax is pretty much DOA in the House (Chopp has no balls) and Brown may just be spouting off this income tax stuff to endear herself to the left-wing of the party.

Left-wing and progressives + Eastern Democrats + Sonntag and Inslee splitting the remaining Democratic vote = Brown in the general?
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« Reply #306 on: April 10, 2009, 08:34:15 AM »
Susan Hutchinson is running for King County Executive. lol.

Silly non-partisan rules mean a lot of people won't figure out she's a Republican (and a crazy one at that).
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« Reply #307 on: April 10, 2009, 08:09:17 PM »
I wouldn't be at all surprised if she finishes in third or even fourth.

Hopefully Pam Roach wants another bite at the apple.
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« Reply #308 on: April 15, 2009, 11:57:41 PM »
The State House just passed the National Popular Vote Compact 52-42 (it previously passed the Senate 28-21). It appears to have been amended in the House though, so back to the Senate it goes.
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« Reply #309 on: April 16, 2009, 04:16:33 PM »
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Quote from: Alcon on April 16, 2009, 12:42:27 AM
Quote from: VP Meeker on April 15, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
The State House just passed the National Popular Vote Compact 52-42 (it previously passed the Senate 28-21). It appears to have been amended in the House though, so back to the Senate it goes.

House crossover
Dems voting "no": Reuven Carlyle (D-Seattle), Laura Grant-Herriot (D-Walla Walla), Zak Hudgins (D-Tukwila), Ross Hunter (D-Medina), Tina Orwall (D-Normandy Park), Jamie Pedersen (D-Seattle), Sharon Tamiko Santos (D-Vashon Island) and Alex Wood (D-Spokane).

Pubbies voting "yes": None.

Pretty impressive that the Democrats can bleed lots of urban-core reps (I wonder why?) and still carry a vote by 10.

Can't find the House version.  The companion bill doesn't list a vote?

Hudgins doesn't like the bill for a lot of logistical reasons (reasons that I completely agree with him on, FTR). All the Democrats that voted against it are his buddies (with the exception of Grant-Herriot who voted against it for other obvious reasons).

EDIT: It wasn't actually amended. Typo from last night.
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« Reply #310 on: April 17, 2009, 09:51:12 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 17, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
State legislators can also hold a local office in Washington? I didn't think that kind of double-dipping was allowed outside of New Jersey.

There was a Supreme Court case about it when he first got elected to both, and the court ruled that the only thing prohibited by state law was appearing on the same ballot twice. Since the County Commissioner elections are in presidential years and the State Senate elections are in mid-term years, Sheldon has no legal issues.

He's still the only one to do it/a douchebag/a DINO/I hate him.
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« Reply #311 on: April 18, 2009, 05:00:05 AM »
Jeanne Kohl-Welles (D-Seattle) has a bill relating to "protecting workers from human trafficking violations". It sailed through the Senate 46-0 and seemed like a fine bill to me at the time, but it barely passed the House today on a 50-48 vote. Anyone know what the hell happened?
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« Reply #312 on: April 24, 2009, 12:27:39 AM »

Why do our municipal governments always seem to attract filth?
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« Reply #313 on: April 26, 2009, 10:53:27 PM »
It just occurred to me that I'd never actually heard Cheryl Pflug speak. I just did.

Oh my is all I have to say to her.
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« Reply #314 on: April 26, 2009, 11:43:03 PM »
Owen just had to break a tie on final passage. Extremely uncommon these days (even more so considering the body has an odd number of members).
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« Reply #315 on: April 27, 2009, 02:01:41 AM »
OH NOES! It's 12:01 and the Legislature hasn't adjourned!
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« Reply #316 on: April 27, 2009, 02:28:12 AM »
Still haven't Sine Die-ed. No idea what's holding them up; TVW cut away and is running promotional crap.
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« Reply #317 on: April 27, 2009, 02:39:47 AM »
Apparently there's an actual problem. From The Olympian:

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« Reply #318 on: April 27, 2009, 02:41:06 AM »
Joe Turner from the News Tribune chimes in:

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« Reply #319 on: April 27, 2009, 02:44:06 AM »
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« Reply #320 on: April 27, 2009, 02:46:31 AM »
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« Reply #321 on: April 27, 2009, 10:19:20 PM »
Gregoire to sign the National Popular Vote Compact tomorrow.
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« Reply #322 on: April 28, 2009, 12:05:05 AM »
Quote from: ottermax on April 27, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: VP Meeker on April 27, 2009, 10:19:20 PM
Gregoire to sign the National Popular Vote Compact tomorrow.

And where's the budget?

Her office is looking over all three... she'll probably veto minor sections in each but she'll sign the vast majority of it into law sometime in mid-May.
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« Reply #323 on: April 29, 2009, 03:05:36 AM »
Rep. Ross Hunter (D-Bellevue) has announced he's running for King County Executive.

So the candidates are now three Democrats, a Republican-turned-Democrat, and Susan Hutchinson? Am I missing anyone?
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« Reply #324 on: April 29, 2009, 04:00:43 AM »
Hunter's very smart. Smarter than Jarrett for sure. Don't really know Constantine and Phillips well enough to make a judgment call though.

And of course they're all smarter than Hutchison. But so is officepark.
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