2020 New York Redistricting

[Brittain33]

I don't know why this map was overturned considering that in 2022 in NY, Dems won 56% of the vote and won 58% of the seats

The map is good from most measures of fair redistricting. Its not getting challenged, its the 2021/2 process which is getting challenged under procedural grounds. And ruling against that procedure would require restarting it, and to the benefit (and purpose) of the dems giving them another crack at it.

Watch NY put another gerrymander in place

Indeed, and the voters lose out. It’s tragic that we can’t get federal legislation to level the playing field.

[Brittain33]

My view is that they both are evil, and always have been, when it comes to gerrymandeing, and both are indefatiguable in putting lipstick pigs.

Democrats have proposed anti-gerrymandering legislation nationally and when this issue goes to the Supreme Court, the Republican caucus favors partisan gerrymandering while the Dem caucus argues for democratic standards. You can’t handwave that away because some state parties push to their advantage. The New York Democratic Party is an ethical disaster in its own right and that hurts many Democrats in the state.

The NC Constitution has guarantees of free elections and equal protection which are violated by gerrymandering. The new Republican majority chose to ignore these enunciated constitutional rights in enshrining a Republican right to gerrymander. They were inconvenient to Republican rule.

[Brittain33]

My view is that they both are evil, and always have been, when it comes to gerrymandeing, and both are indefatiguable in putting lipstick pigs.

The NC Constitution has guarantees of free elections and equal protection which are violated by gerrymandering. The new Republican majority chose to ignore these enunciated constitutional rights in enshrining a Republican right to gerrymander. They were inconvenient to Republican rule.

Both I and SCOTUS disagree with your opinion set forth in your second paragraph for the record.

Did the Republican majority on SCOTUS weigh in on the equal protection and free election clauses of the North Carolina Constitution not being violated by gerrymandering? I didn’t think they had, and that they tried to avoid weighing in on state constitutional issues, but refresh my memory.

[Brittain33]

Apparently the court sided with the Dems.

Court of Appeals on redistricting:

"The IRC should  comply with its constitutional mandate by submitting to the legislature, on the earliest  possible date, but in no event later than February 28, 2024, a second congressional  redistricting plan and implementing legislation"

[Brittain33]

There's always the option of trying to make a Jewish plurality district by pairing Rockland with Manhattan (water connectivity only). Looks horrendous but it's a theoretical option for plausible deniability in gerrymandering.

That would be funny. Those two populations have nothing in common and the Haredi communities would consider the Manhattan Jews to be goyim..

[Brittain33]

Very fair, pro-democracy. Hope someone is reading this thread.

[Brittain33]

Isn't there historical precedence for a Staten Island-Manhattan district? It seems like it might be easy to uphold if the other NYC districts are kept tidy.

I'm pretty sure no but it can be easily put into a pretty Safe D seat by just linking it to Park Slope.

I found a tweet that said Manhattan was connected with Staten Island for some time:

“ Fun fact - Staten Island and Lower Manhattan formed one congressional district for a *majority* of the last 130 years (1893-1953, 1973-1983)”

Makes sense as there was no bridge to Brooklyn until the 1960s.

[Brittain33]

I don’t believe that article. It’s describing a complete surrender to Republicans.

[Brittain33]

NY Dems need to get Latimer tf out of Albany. I’m sorry but your personal congressional ambitions come second to preventing the rise of fascism in this country.

Dems call gerrymandering undemocratic and then do it anyway and say it's to preserve democracy. Absolutely hilarious.

As has been explained about eleven billion times, Democratic members of Congress repeatedly voted to ban gerrymandering but would be absolute morons to unilaterally disarm as long as Republicans block those reforms and keep gerrymandering their own states.

[Brittain33]

Complete boredom until a Senate map drops.