Stricter sanctions against Russia

[Person Man]

It would look a whole lot better if major social media platforms just banned Russian IP addresses
Between the Iowa caucus and inauguration day.

[Person Man]

I don't really get it.

First people like Proto downplay Russia's power (in countless threads before, posting songs with verses like "Oh you stupid Russian"), but then they claim they had the power to singlehandedly swing an election in a country of 300+ Million Inhabitants...

So, which is it, are they weak, or all-powerful?

As for the travel ban, some people just think you can't be racist against white people lol.

And as for the sanctions, you guys really think imposing sanction after sanction on Iran, Russia etc. will not lead the affected countries (India, China, Russia, Iran etc.) to unite against a "common enemy"?

It would look a whole lot better if major social media platforms just banned Russian IP addresses
Between the Iowa caucus and inauguration day.

And you do realize datacenter proxies are $1 per piece, and that mobile proxies are $3 (they cannot be banned, as the IP addresses circulate) right?

Please don't make ridiculous claims without the proper technical knowledge.

Doing nothing isn't an option. I Just said theoretically that if private companies could make an attempt to protect elections, that would be a step in the right direction. You can talk about VPNs until you are blue in the face, but I am not impressed by such statements of futility.

America interferes in politics everywhere, in much more blatant ways than just buying some Facebook ads, and they're open about it. The same goes for my own country (to an of course much more limited extent). I guess most people here are fine with that, but then don't tell me you're not being a hypocrite when you complain about Russia doing the same.

Russia tried to do the same thing France's elections but it didn't work. Russia is an interfering country, period.

Le Pen would have made a better president.

And yeah, US meddling is more common than Russian meddling, but as it suits liberal interests it isn't called meddling.

Yes. But we need to do something about it. Whataboutism just reduces your credibility further.

[Person Man]

three things-

1) We can get private companies to strengthen their security. I don't know how. There are ways. Some are reasonable at the moment, some could be a decade and a billion dollars away. Maybe they can use deep learning algorithms to map out where bad actors are coming from and then find a way to ban those VPNS, find a way to ban people by their MAC addresses or ban the MAC addresses of the servers that host the VPNs that are flagged as fraudulent. Maybe they can even train facial recognition software in conjunction with other software and other behaviors to make sure that you can one day literally ban individuals from the social media platform. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/us/george-zimmerman-removed-tinder-trnd/index.html) It can be very difficult to change your online persona and I know for a fact that TRR is a sock of LBP. The liberal use of explanation marks makes him sound like a toddler. Kind of how some fundies do. This should not just apply to Russian meddling in American elections but anyone meddling in anyone's elections. Including any conspiracies by the DoD, DoS, CIA, or NSA.


2) We can ban members of the URP above a certain level in the party's bureaucracy or in the private organizations that support or belong to bureaucrats above a certain rank. Ordinary Russians, even oligarchs not involved in the Duganist Government at this point, shouldn't be affected. The only way around this ban is that they come here is supervised, escorted at all times and only when they absolutely need to be here.

3) This is something that everyone should be involved in. Whether you think what the FSB and the Trump Campaign did was OK, where do you draw the line, if at all? Can you articulate future consequences?

[Person Man]

Guys?

[Person Man]

There was no collusion and there is no reason to impose stricter sanctions on Russia. We should work towards normalizing relations between the West and Russia.

What about Zim? He's an alien, you know. I swear. Are our skills of perception as human beings really this poor?

[Person Man]

America interferes in politics everywhere, in much more blatant ways than just buying some Facebook ads, and they're open about it. The same goes for my own country (to an of course much more limited extent). I guess most people here are fine with that, but then don't tell me you're not being a hypocrite when you complain about Russia doing the same.

You summed it up very well!

More reason for the social media to take these threats seriously. Also more reason to be concerned about where all of this leads.

[Person Man]

America interferes in politics everywhere, in much more blatant ways than just buying some Facebook ads, and they're open about it. The same goes for my own country (to an of course much more limited extent). I guess most people here are fine with that, but then don't tell me you're not being a hypocrite when you complain about Russia doing the same.

You summed it up very well!

More reason for the social media to take these threats seriously. Also more reason to be concerned about where all of this leads.

Sure, but the West will continue influencing other elections, so there's no reason to cry the first time someone does it to America.

You can't really expect someone to stop doing something if you are doing it 10 times more with 10 times the resources...

Plus, Russia's interference was negligible all things considered.

Are concerned about that or where it might go?