Presidential Survivor Discussion

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Any prediction on the ultimate winner of this thing?
I think Teddy Roosevelt actually has a good shot, given his widespread appeal among Dems, Republicans, and Independents.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Anyone want to join me in voting off Coolidge?

Tell me one thing he did right as president...he tried to keep the government out of the economy, and ensure peace through the Kellogg-Briand Pact.  We all know how those turned out a few years later.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Fair enough; I will vote for GWB in Round 10 and resume my Coolidge campaign once he gets voted off.

I actually think Bush has done more good things for the country than Coolidge ever did.  Whether he has also done more bad things remains to be seen.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Presidents that as of yet have not recieved even one single vote to be eliminated are:

Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Chester A. Arthur
Grover Cleveland
Benjaman Harrison
William McKinley
Harry Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Gerald Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton

Jefferson, Truman and Kennedy will make the final 5 (just a random prediction).

I agree about Jefferson and Truman.   But I don't know if JFK has enough appeal amongst the Republicans to make it that far.   The guys who will make it to the final 5 will be somebody that has appeal amongst both parties.   That's why FDR, Reagan, Lincoln, and GWB will not make it that far.   

Which is why I will stick with my pick for TR to win.  Although I think Jefferson and Truman are also both good picks.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

As for the final five, I'm going to be the first to suggest that Cleveland and Mckinley may be dark horses.

Do we need to vote Grover off twice?

This round, FDR v. Bush, is the first truly partisan round.  LBJ is legitimately despised as President by many of us.  FDR's domestic fiscal policies may not be well liked, but he did deal with WWII properly.  I would imagine many of the people voting FDR off are looking to get rid of him in retaliation for the run on Bush.

Really, no one can judge W, Bubba, and Bush the Elder in a proper historical context at this point.  In 20 years we may live in a world where International Terrorism is all but forgotten and democracy in the Middle East is the accepted norm.  We are just now beginning to enter the phase where we can properly judge Reagan.

My point exactly.  I don't think W should necessarily win, but I think it's premature to be trying to get rid of him with so much dead wood left.  We have to make the Democrats pay dearly for their blind partisanship.

It's the Republicans, not the Democrats that have been showing blind partisanship in eliminating our modern Presidents in previous rounds.

People are not going after FDR in retaliation for anything.  The campaign against him started in Round 4!

Even in this round, the effort against GWB didn't start until it was obvious he was the only reason to save FDR. 

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

As for the final five, I'm going to be the first to suggest that Cleveland and Mckinley may be dark horses.

Do we need to vote Grover off twice?

This round, FDR v. Bush, is the first truly partisan round.  LBJ is legitimately despised as President by many of us.  FDR's domestic fiscal policies may not be well liked, but he did deal with WWII properly.  I would imagine many of the people voting FDR off are looking to get rid of him in retaliation for the run on Bush.

Really, no one can judge W, Bubba, and Bush the Elder in a proper historical context at this point.  In 20 years we may live in a world where International Terrorism is all but forgotten and democracy in the Middle East is the accepted norm.  We are just now beginning to enter the phase where we can properly judge Reagan.

My point exactly.  I don't think W should necessarily win, but I think it's premature to be trying to get rid of him with so much dead wood left.  We have to make the Democrats pay dearly for their blind partisanship.

It's the Republicans, not the Democrats that have been showing blind partisanship in eliminating our modern Presidents in previous rounds.

People are not going after FDR in retaliation for anything.  The campaign against him started in Round 4!

Even in this round, the effort against GWB didn't start until it was obvious he was the only reason to save FDR. 

Texasgurl voted for Bush before I voted for FDR so thats not really true.

I mean the concerted effort....I saw a bunch of people had already voted FDR, and I wanted to vote in the way that would best save him....someone had already voted for GWB, so I thought that was the best way to not waste my vote.  I've been trying to eliminate the "deadwood" Coolidge for a bunch of weeks, but gotten no traction.