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« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2020, 07:49:43 PM »

Those Red counties aren't going to be enough to offset Clayton right?

Considering Biden netted votes in Forsyth for the last few ballots

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« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2020, 07:51:33 PM »

I hope Biden breaks Obama's 2008 total in Philly. He's 83k votes away.

That's why I think the "ballots out in Philly" # is wrong - Biden is definitely passing Hillary 2016

He didn't do it in Detroit, although there are a few upscale parts of Philly and Philly is growing.
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« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2020, 08:03:59 PM »

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« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2020, 08:47:07 PM »

I do have to wonder if the lack of retracting is a pride thing.  It does appear so at Fox, as they're already wrong.  They said Trump was only getting 45% of the remaining vote (last night) which is obviously false.

Yup it is, in 2018 it was clear TJ cox was gonna win but AP didn't uncall it for Valladolid till he actually did win
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« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2020, 09:22:02 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2020, 09:36:55 PM by #proudtikitorchmarcher »

Orange county seems likes its gonna trend R, same margin as 2016, my guess is CA 48 and stuff like that moved left while hispanics and maybe(?) Vietnamese moved to the right?
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« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2020, 11:08:54 PM »

That reminds of all the lib women crying when Hillary lost, in the end it seems like Trump will lose by a similar margin that Hillary lost in raw votes lol.
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« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2020, 11:42:09 PM »

It's incredible that Republicans are still trying to frame the outcome of this election as a victory, even though Trump is on track to lose both the popular vote and the electoral college by significant margins. Not only will he go down in history as a liar, fraud, and national embarrassment, but also as a pathetic one term loser. Sad! Trump running in 2024? More likely that he'll be in jail by then.

Obviously, the idea that the courts are going to save him has always been a delusional fantasy. But if it helps people to cope with the imminent Biden victory...

Trump lost, thats almost certain but did the GOP lose? I say wait for the Georgia runoffs but the further you get downballot the worse it gets for Ds.
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« Reply #132 on: November 05, 2020, 11:58:08 PM »



Republican voters are truly pathetic
I mean Pence, Haley, Romney and Cruz are okay possibilities. Surprised Tucker is low and Trump jr is a no no
I honestly think we gotta "reward" fellow hispanics with putting one on the ticket. We've learned the GOP can't win with less than 30% of the Hispanic vote

Opinion of the Texas GOP redistricting the Rio Grande in 2022 for more Hispanic Republicans?
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« Reply #133 on: November 06, 2020, 12:11:34 AM »

Please stop responding to SN, Buzz or any other obvious troll. The last couple pages have just been a wall of solid blue lines

How is Buzz trolling here?
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« Reply #134 on: November 06, 2020, 01:41:43 AM »
« Edited: November 06, 2020, 01:55:08 AM by #proudtikitorchmarcher »


Irrespective of who wins or loses Georgia, Trump performed better virtually everywhere than the Republicans did in 2018, yet Brian Kamp won the governorship in Georgia by 53,000 votes.  I think this provides even more evidence that Brian Kamp stole the governorship.

No it just shows Georgia is moving leftwards by 2 points each year due to strong black demographical shifts and urban areas moving left?. Although the black vote seems to have moved a touch to the right it definitely didn't overcome 2 years of shifts in Georgia.
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« Reply #135 on: November 06, 2020, 03:06:34 AM »

The GA GOP's best bet is basically draw some legislative gerrymander that holds the decade which should be easy, Maine Rule the state for presidential stuff and then just pray the GOP makes legitimate gains with black voters before 2032.
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« Reply #136 on: November 06, 2020, 12:22:01 PM »

Hot take: Those riots in Kenosha and Philly almost cost Biden the election.
I'll wait for the final Philly numbers and lower Bucks and Delaware.
Woke whites have a negative self perception so riots for them might actually make them vote more left wing as in Minneapolis.

Months of BLM protesting does not seem to have helped Democrats with black voters though which is hilarious.
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« Reply #137 on: November 06, 2020, 12:27:16 PM »

Hot take: Those riots in Kenosha and Philly almost cost Biden the election.
I'll wait for the final Philly numbers and lower Bucks and Delaware.
Woke whites have a negative self perception so riots for them might actually make them vote more left wing as in Minneapolis.

Is it possible that BLM helped in Minnesota (and maybe Georgia) and hurt in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania due to the different white/middle-class cultures in the suburban areas of those states?
WOW still swung D and Philly burbs seems like they will, I will wait for actual results within Bucks and Delaware and the actual city to see what happened.
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« Reply #138 on: November 06, 2020, 12:36:50 PM »

It’s more likely BLM saved Biden in Wisconsin and Georgia and gave him a wider edge in Pennsylvania and Michigan than costing him in any of those states. Black turnout was through the roof and suburbs in those states don’t show much backlash.

Black turnout was not through the roof. BIDEN lost net votes in the black areas of Milwaukee . Milwaukee swung D because of the suburbs and white libs.
Kenosha swung a bit R even.
Blm did not help Democrats among Midwestern blacks, will have to see the South though.
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« Reply #139 on: November 06, 2020, 12:39:34 PM »

It’s more likely BLM saved Biden in Wisconsin and Georgia and gave him a wider edge in Pennsylvania and Michigan than costing him in any of those states. Black turnout was through the roof and suburbs in those states don’t show much backlash.

Black turnout was not through the roof. BIDEN lost net votes in the black areas of Milwaukee .
Kenosha swung a bit R even.

Think black turnout / enthusiasm for Biden varied by state. It was clearly up in GA, looking at the vote counts in Fulton, Dekalb and Clayton and Rockdale counties and probably helped tip the state to Biden.
So far in Detroit trump has netted 6k votes from 2016 fwiw and most of that was gaining votes.  Biden lost 1k.
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« Reply #140 on: November 06, 2020, 01:26:01 PM »

In the end, Biden only overperformed the polls in three states (as per 538)

California, Colorado and Louisiana

Every other state Trump overperformed the polls
California isn't done counting.
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« Reply #141 on: November 06, 2020, 04:02:19 PM »

Navajo is closer to swing but the other 2 are pretty red but yeah Biden should win.
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« Reply #142 on: November 06, 2020, 04:12:11 PM »

Riggleman was also trying to talkdown MGT a few weeks ago. She has not underperformed much actually.
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« Reply #143 on: November 06, 2020, 04:28:50 PM »

I expect Greene to be censured within the first month or so of the next congress.


I'm sure she will be.  Unfortunately she's going to be around for a while, I'm afraid.  She's in a district that will never vote against her.

The GOP does need her district to crack the Atlanta burbs I can see her lose Bachmann style by the end of the 2020's in a still Safe R district thats trending D.
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« Reply #144 on: November 06, 2020, 04:37:09 PM »

Remember what happened to King in Iowa? If Greene makes a fool of herself and looses all power as a Representative during her term she will probably lose the primary, and the GOP will fund someone pretty heavily to beat her if need be.

Kings District was conservative, but never as burning ruby red as greenes

Yeah remember Obama only lost Iowa 4th in its current iteration by like 2 points in 2008.
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« Reply #145 on: November 06, 2020, 08:36:15 PM »



This is disturbing and I think the man needs help but I had to laugh.
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« Reply #146 on: November 06, 2020, 08:59:17 PM »



This is disturbing and I think the man needs help but I had to laugh.

You people need to understand that for these people (a great share of the latin-american upper class) anything that means losing just an inch of privilege or cent from their wallets is communism. Latam is ed due to them (also corruption). They are so selfish no public policy is possible because they sabotage. At the end, you shouldn't be surprised why there are so many revolutionary movements and crazy politicians in our region, is because they swear to fight them. With them the new deal would have finished in a coup d'état finance by them.

You do realize this was still the 2nd most pro minimum wage county in Florida Tongue

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« Reply #147 on: November 06, 2020, 10:54:04 PM »

Biden saying loud and clear THIS IS A MANDATE.



Mandate for what?

Not Trump?
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« Reply #148 on: November 06, 2020, 11:21:15 PM »


For actual leadership, listening to science and doctors, and making decisions on something other than impulse.

Cry harder.

I mean Biden won and he does have a mandate for being president, Im just saying it doesn't look like a mandate to actually pass D leaning policy? Guess it depends on GA runoffs.
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« Reply #149 on: November 07, 2020, 05:10:46 PM »

Michigan better fix Antprim fast, still seems like an error even if Trump is winning it.(of course Trump still lost MI)
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