NYC Mayor/2021 Megathread

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I’m really curious how effective these “second choice” endorsements actually end up being, if supporters generally stick by them or just do their own thing. I also am curious if it’s pretty obvious who X candidates supporters go to or if it’s just a scramble

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Anyone else suspect that Yang being a lightning rod for media attention will be a big obstacle for anyone opposing him?

Yes, see Trump 2016

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Yang is considering making Val Demings (?) police commissioner.

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1385636251273994240?s=21

Yang really is the democratic Trump, I’m sure his thought process was “black woman police officer? Demmings!”

Granted it’s not unheard of for bureaucrats to move from one city to another, but it’s not like NYC is short on talent

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Frontrunner
Andrew Yang
Competitors
Eric Adams, Scott Stringer
Periphery of Competition
Maya Wiley, Ray McGuire
Field
Shaun Donovan, Diane Morales, Kathryn Garcia

Here is my current breakdown, I've adjusted it to better reflect the state of the race. There's three people with a chance, two people who might break into the top tier, a field of people vying to get into competition, and one guy who just stays in the lead.

How set is the field?

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That's not Meeks' district.

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Honestly the biggest surprise/only disappointment for me so far is Torres’s endorsement of Yang. Also interesting that a lot of them haven’t endorsed yet

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This feels like a hit at first instinct, but god someone ought to bring up dirt on Adams while they’re at it. He’s just trash.

Looking like my Maya for Mayor pins got a little more relevant.

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Wiley Gang now I guess

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It's not a lock for Yang just yet, though obviously he is in a very good position right now.

He is still the frontrunner but Adams has clear momentum right now and could pull it off.

I just threw up a little

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New York ain’t sending its best…

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As I said, Scott is going to hemorrhage endorsements, he should drop out before he loses all dignity he has left.

He’s following the Cuomo model, just ignore everything and continue

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Eric Adams would be a disaster mayor and the republicans best hope at winning in four years if he wins and isn’t primaried

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Eric Adams would be a disaster mayor and the republicans best hope at winning in four years if he wins and is t primaried

Explain.....

I’ve said this a few times before but he’s just toxic, he defends abusers, anti-semites and picks racist fights for no reason (Herman Badillo), his policies are wack (like the aforementioned 300 students debacle). Honest to god I dislike Bloomberg, Schultz as much as any democrat but if Bloomberg ran against Adams I’d probably vote for them

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Would there be/is there a way to have a mock NYC election on the forum?

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Yang might blow this after all.

But he might have blown it a month too early, because now much of the fire will turn on Adams as the new favorite - and there are a LOT of skeletons there.

Really, unless Stringer can bounce back or Garcia can find some real momentum, Yang is probably still the favorite.

As much as I dislike both of them, I’d much rather take Yang over Adams in half a heartbeat

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Loving the anti-Adams backlash.

He's surging (ugh). The question is will it be enough.

Honestly surprised people having been bringing up the Badillo stuff more

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Loving the anti-Adams backlash.

He's surging (ugh). The question is will it be enough.

Honestly surprised people having been bringing up the Badillo stuff more

The Badillo comment is so bizarre.

The more I look into Adams, the more he comes off as erratic and strange. It really makes you wonder how he got as far in politics as he has, especially since the traditional Brooklyn Democratic establishments don't like him.

Adams is erratic, he’s an anti-semite and a misogynist who views the world in a very specific way.

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Emerson's RCV tabulation. Garcia defeats Adams 55-45 on the final ballot.

Stop you’re giving me Hope

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She never had a chance of winning but yikes.

... Jumaane really should have run this time, probably the only thing that could have avoided a further right mayor than De Blasio (I consider Stringer around the same as de Blasio ideologically, obviously some differences though).

Why didn’t he run? At this point hed likely be the front runner

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How bad of a candidate do you have to be for your volunteers, people who support you so much they go out of their way to help you for free go on strike???

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How bad of a candidate do you have to be for your volunteers, people who support you so much they go out of their way to help you for free go on strike???

And that's why supporting Dianne at this point is bad. Quite bad.

Freaking Paperboy Love Prince is honestly my 3rd choice right now just for how bad everyone else is

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Anyhow, this is actually the first time in which I've been able to check in on this race in the last few days, so seeing Garciamentum followed by Morales' implosion is... something. Definitely invokes some memories of how the Anybody-But-Quinn people successfully quashed her front-runner status back in 2013 by consolidating their support around de Blasio - all while Weiner was imploding - just a few weeks before the primary. History may not repeat, but it definitely rhymes.

Why were people against Quinn?

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How bad of a candidate do you have to be for your volunteers, people who support you so much they go out of their way to help you for free go on strike???

And that's why supporting Dianne at this point is bad. Quite bad.

Freaking Paperboy Love Prince is honestly my 3rd choice right now just for how bad everyone else is

I don’t know if I can think of five major candidates I like at this point. I’d likely put Prince at #1 if I were a voter.

Princementum


I wonder if Menchaca were still in how would he be doing

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Eric Adams is really, really bad

Why?

• advocated for racial profiling as an NYPD officer
• was a staunch supporter of Louis Farrakhan
• was a self-described conservative Republican and ally of Giuliani until 2002
• called Herman Badillo a race traitor for marrying a Jewish woman
• helped bring about Giuliani’s victory by telling black people not to vote for Dinkins because he condemned the Nation of Islam
• defended domestic abuser Hiram Monserrate until this February

This is genuinely about the fifth time this has been said in this thread like jeez how can anyone on this site support him

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Eric Adams is really, really bad

Why?

• advocated for racial profiling as an NYPD officer
• was a staunch supporter of Louis Farrakhan
• was a self-described conservative Republican and ally of Giuliani until 2002
• called Herman Badillo a race traitor for marrying a Jewish woman
• helped bring about Giuliani’s victory by telling black people not to vote for Dinkins because he condemned the Nation of Islam
• defended domestic abuser Hiram Monserrate until this February

Absurd smears here:

• Eric Adams was literally a victim of police brutality before becoming a police officer and he was part of separate Black police officer organizations aligned with Dinkins that were always critical of police brutality, racism in policing etc. This is possibly the only consistent part of his record as a politician.
• Jesse Jackson publicly campaigned with Farrakhan until it was inconvenient to do so as well in 1984. Eric Adams being aligned with Farrakhan for a time mostly tells me that he's a Black politician.
• Eric Adams was certainly race-baiting against Badillo but implying that he was being anti-Semitic is strange given that his race-baiting would have applied if Badillo was married to an Italian or Irish.
• Everyone knows that Eric Adams supported Dinkins in 1993.

Eric Adams is certainly a sketchy character but I do not find the narrative against him to be particularly compelling. The most intense detractors of Eric Adams imply that he is both a closet Republican reactionary while also being a vicious anti-Semitic Black separatist. Partial bits of information are aggregated to glide over the fact that Eric Adams was a pretty typical Black cop (aligned with Dinkins, critic of police brutality), that he was an early supporter of same-sex marriage (this defies the idea that he's some kind of clear-cut separatist bigot or whatever), that he was an early opponent of "Stop and Frisk" etc.

Basically all of these candidates are awful so haters of Eric Adams are aware that they have to paint him as the worst possible piece of excrement in order to make him seem undesirable. The truth is far more complicated than that. Adams is a political chameleon who is currently running as a man of the people. Considering who his opponents are, this is a very potent message. I do not foresee the others being able to stop him...

First off I don't think Adams is a homophobe (source am gay), and I don't think any one has said that. Secondly there are two biggest faults with Adams which you only touched on. Perhaps what should automatically disqualify him is the fact he enthusiastically and continuously defended a domestic abuser even after it was obvious he was guilty.

When you look at how he went out of his way to defend Farrakhan after Owens denounced him for anti-Semitism, and how he specifically went out of his way to attack Badillo for marrying a Jewish woman a pattern starts to emerge. When there's smoke there's fire, and while Adams may not be anti-Semitic himself, he probably is apathetic towards the Jewish community and now just using them for political capital in the election, which leads me to one thing I think is the worst about Adams is that he seems to have no true beliefs, but just trying to climb the ladder and putting on whatever mask can serve him best, the same as Morales

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LMAOOOOOO

I gotta admit, Dems might be right. The DemSoc movement is dead.

Nina Turner is the lone bright light in a pit of failures.

Which YouTuber led you to that conclusion?

The Failed Campaigns of Dianne Morales, Joshua Collins, Bernie Sanders, And Uselessness Of The Squad In Congress. Long channel name - but check 'em out sometime!

Yea it’s not like AOC is slowly gaining popularity and leverage (which takes years btw) while also expanding her base with people like Torres, Jones, Newman, Bush, Bowman just two years later…

It’s only been one cycle since the demsoc movement even really started, so it’s really too early to call it dead or alive.