NV Caucus Results Thread (doors close at 2 CT)

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Jeezus. I just noticed that PredictIt has Bernie with a +10% win in Nevada and winning every single state now (Bloomberg just overtook him in Florida as I was typing this).

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51% say they're first time caucus-goers.

It appears that the real Bernie revolution only needed a state not entirely full of Karens to finally get off the ground. Somehow I'm not surprised that Sanders didn't quite go off in states full of middle aged white people.

Yeah because Our Revolution did such a good job nationwide in 2018. /s

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Buttigieg getting so personal with Klobuchar is really hurting him. He has alienating Klobuchar supporters, who are now refusing to help him get viable.

No, it’s the other way around:

Klob was first to attack him on the debate stage a few months ago ...

They both did nothing but split the moderate vote from Biden and helped Bernie.

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Why are Latinos so pro-Bernie? Does anyone have a serious answer besides tHeY aRe DiSpRoPoRtIoNaTeLy YoUnG? That's not enough to explain these numbers. This is like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton with the Black vote.

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Why are Latinos so pro-Bernie? Does anyone have a serious answer besides tHeY aRe DiSpRoPoRtIoNaTeLy YoUnG? That's not enough to explain these numbers. This is like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton with the Black vote.

Because Hispanics tend to like his Economic policies.

And they preferred Clinton's in '16?

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Give me a single reason warren should stay in race

She's doing better than a lot of other candidates who are still in the race.

She's invested a lot in Super Tuesday states and many of us want to vote for her.

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Give me a single reason warren should stay in race

She's doing better than a lot of other candidates who are still in the race.

She's invested a lot in Super Tuesday states and many of us want to vote for her.

Warren is not doing better than "a lot of candidates" - her support is pretty middling at this point (maybe even worse than expected since she underperformed Buttigieg in IA/NH and Klobuchar in NH).

She is beating Pete and Amy today, and beat Amy in Iowa. So she is up 2-1 on Amy, and down 1-2 on Pete. Fine. But she's also outraised both of them by a significant margin. So I don't see why she should drop out if both of them are still in it. Also Steyer is still in who she beat in IA and NH, and Bloomberg who she has done better in 3-0. Finally, she's up 2-1 on Biden.

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Warren's now ahead of Steyer for 3rd place in the initial vote, but Steyer edges her out for 3rd in both the realigned voted and county delegates:

https://elections.ap.org/dailykos/results/2020-02-22/state/NV

Actually, looks like CNN lists more votes counted than the AP link, and they have Buttigieg in 3rd for both popular vote tallies:

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada

(Sanders still in 1st and Biden in 2nd.)

Why does AP say 30% expected vote with 2.6% precincts reporting. Does that mean those 2.6% of precincts have 30% of the voters? That seems impossible with the raw numbers so low. Are those "First Alignment" raw votes?

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Yup, and so people have to consider if they'd rather have whoever Sanders picks as VP or Trump. And when people start thinking about that, now they have to be on board with Sanders and on board with his VP. That will lose some supporters. The chance of Sanders having a health issue during the campaign season even is very possible, and then there's a fairly good chance he wouldn't make it through the 1st Term. If he did, he's be an 83 year-old running for re-election and there would be a good chance he'd die before his second term was over because it wouldn't end until he was around 87 years-old.

The chance of Trump having health issues is probably higher than the chance of Bernie having health issues. Perhaps in one of the debates they should have an athletic competition.

You're delusional. Bernie just had a heart attack. Trump hasn't had any issues.

Trump literally had a heart attack and was rushed to the hospital...

When?

On the same day as Bloomberg's multiple heart attacks

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I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

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I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Where are you getting those results from?

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada

Also, here's a thread of anecdotal but interesting reports of a Warren surge on the election day vs early vote:

https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1231322621867954177

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Well, Klobuchar did her job of cock-blocking Buttigieg in New Hampshire for Bernie, she can be thrown away and take her payment from his campaign now.

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Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.

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Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.

Lol she's not gonna win dude

Anything can happen. For all we know Sanders has another heart attack tomorrow. For all we know all the 50+ candidates die of coronavirus in the next 3 months and Gabbard becomes the nominee after beating Buttigieg in a wrestling competition. This could be Warren's last shot, she might as well go the distance.

[Beet]

Warren right out of the gate justifying why she wants to keep going. She's clearly talked herself into staying until the loss in Massachusetts. It's her funeral.

While the debate appears to have done little to bolster her support in Nevada, it has confirmed her status as the cult candidate for liberals.

So much time spent mulling whether Sanders' second run would be reminiscent of Ron Paul while a better comparison was lurking under our nose all along.

Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.

Lol she's not gonna win dude

Anything can happen. For all we know Sanders has another heart attack tomorrow. For all we know all the 50+ candidates die of coronavirus in the next 3 months and Gabbard becomes the nominee after beating Buttigieg in a wrestling competition. This could be Warren's last shot, she might as well go the distance.

Damn, deranged and delusional. You hate to see it.

Frankly the fact that it triggers the people who called her snakes so much that Warren is staying would be sufficient justification in itself.

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Frankly the fact that it triggers the people who called her snakes so much that Warren is staying would be sufficient justification in itself.

I mean, I'm not the one who's gonna face a primary challenge after losing my home state. But she's in it to the end

So you want to primary one of the most progressive Senators in the country. I'll vote straight Republican before I support cultists like you.

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Frankly the fact that it triggers the people who called her snakes so much that Warren is staying would be sufficient justification in itself.

I mean, I'm not the one who's gonna face a primary challenge after losing my home state. But she's in it to the end

So you want to primary one of the most progressive Senators in the country. I'll vote straight Republican before I support cultists like you.

You don't think that the degenerate Kennedy family would primary her if they had the chance? I'm just stating the facts, dude. Harris would be in the same position if she stayed into California.

You're not just stating the facts buddy. I saw that smiley face. And the misogyny and racism I saw accompanying Kamala's exit from the race were despicable, even though I don't like her in the least.

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Cry all you want, she's in it. To call for her to drop out when 98% of the country hasn't voted yet is profoundly undemocratic. And might I remind you, you support Amy Klobuchar? If anyone should drop out after today it's her and Steyer.

I can't support Klobuchar in good conscience after tonight, because I know what my real choice is: Sanders, or a protracted muddle leading to a bitterly contested convention in which Bloomberg, Biden, and perhaps Buttigieg are major players.

Two ineffectual old men, or a political celebrity running a single-issue campaign against Medicare for All. Awful.

Much of what Sanders has campaigned on in this cycle has been repulsive to me, but there is no alternative. Klobuchar appears unlikely to meet the delegate threshold outside of her home state between now and Super Tuesday. It's over.

That's a fair take. I disagree, but I think you are at least putting forward a rational thought.

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Frankly the fact that it triggers the people who called her snakes so much that Warren is staying would be sufficient justification in itself.

I mean, I'm not the one who's gonna face a primary challenge after losing my home state. But she's in it to the end

So you want to primary one of the most progressive Senators in the country. I'll vote straight Republican before I support cultists like you.

You don't think that the degenerate Kennedy family would primary her if they had the chance? I'm just stating the facts, dude. Harris would be in the same position if she stayed into California.

You're not just stating the facts buddy. I saw that smiley face. And the misogyny and racism I saw accompanying Kamala's exit from the race were despicable, even though I don't like her in the least.

Did you read any of what I wrote? It was smart that Harris bailed when she did; she doesn't have to suffer the humiliation of losing her home state and she's not gonna get primaried for it.

You keep emphasizing the "humiliation" of losing her home state as if it matters a whit. Do you see Marco Rubio walking around with his head hanging down after losing Florida? No, he got over it. And what about the "humiliation" of dropping out of the race because you're certain to lose your home state? What's the difference? Home states, with a few exceptions, matter little any more. The only reason Warren even lives in Massachusetts is because she teaches at Harvard, anyway. As a 70 year old woman the appeal of being in the Senate is not even that great. Come on, compared to this presidential campaign, which is likely the highlight and peak of her entire life, serving another six years in the Senate is nothing. Let that grasping social climber Kennedy take his shot at it, if he so wants. We'll be happy to back Ayanna Pressley and leave his teeth on the floor.

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How were there no f**k-ups in 2016 yet this has happened twice now? The fact that there is only 60% of the results at this point is ridiculous

Because this is the first year they've had to report all three sets of numbers rather than only the final results.

The result of a Sanders campaign demand from 2016. Clinton people like Neera Tanden wanted to get rid of the caucuses altogether.