NYC Mayor/2021 Megathread

[KaiserDave]

How is the race for comptroller looking? Hopefully Caruso-Cabrera has no chance.

It's Lander (amazing) and Corey Johnson (yuck). Everyone else is probably noise.

[KaiserDave]

Yang is absolutely wrong and is pandering

[KaiserDave]

Menchaca was a total show horse, not a work horse, hence why his constituents hate him. Good bye to a candidate totally unequipped for the job.

Anyways, Scott Stringer got 25 thousand signatures. Which...to compare, Yang got 9 thousand. Absolutely amazing. This is what happens when you have a dedicated core of volunteers, who are veterans of the Sanders and Warren 2020 campaigns and 2018, and when your volunteer base is largely made up of those new to the scene.

A small army of experienced, tested, veterans will handily defeat disorganized conscripts any day, as history as taught us repeatedly.

[KaiserDave]

-poll-

Not to be taken seriously in my view.

[KaiserDave]

Menchaca was a total show horse, not a work horse, hence why his constituents hate him. Good bye to a candidate totally unequipped for the job.

I mean, I didn't like him either, & his dropping out just makes pure sense given the race's tightening & his position therein at this point, but does the city not benefit from a diversity of figures in the race, given that it can help enable a lot of conversation? Don't get me wrong, he would've been an exceptionally bad mayor, but I at least think that his idea about participatory budgeting & giving residents a greater voice in deciding how to spend millions in taxpayer money is worth talking about in much the same way that Yang's UBI is.

You do have a point, I suppose I'm being unfair. But I know his constituents would feel the same as I do.


As for Participatory Budgeting, the mastermind of that project is Brad Lander, who I'm hoping will thwack Johnson at the polls (but he won't ).

[KaiserDave]

Saw Maya Wiley today, the first sign of her campaign's existence to me

[KaiserDave]

Saw Maya Wiley today, the first sign of her campaign's existence to me

How are you in a position to see all of these mayoral candidates walking past your door? 😂 I guess they don't come where I stay way out here in the eastern part of Brooklyn.

Well I ran into Garcia and Wiley at the same place, suffice it to say I live close to a fair amount of major areas where people gather.

[KaiserDave]

Menchaca was a total show horse, not a work horse, hence why his constituents hate him. Good bye to a candidate totally unequipped for the job.

Anyways, Scott Stringer got 25 thousand signatures. Which...to compare, Yang got 9 thousand. Absolutely amazing. This is what happens when you have a dedicated core of volunteers, who are veterans of the Sanders and Warren 2020 campaigns and 2018, and when your volunteer base is largely made up of those new to the scene.

A small army of experienced, tested, veterans will handily defeat disorganized conscripts any day, as history as taught us repeatedly.

Ok but considering Sanders and Warren lost quite handily, it does make you wonder if it won't happen again, with Yang at Biden's position this time

You’re not wrong, Yang is the favorite, but I think Scott has far superior campaign infrastructure

[KaiserDave]

Not for the mayoral election but didn’t think it was worth starting a new topic - AOC endorses Lander for Comptroller. Fingers crossed he can beat Corey!

Great news!!!

[KaiserDave]

Not for the mayoral election but didn’t think it was worth starting a new topic - AOC endorses Lander for Comptroller. Fingers crossed he can beat Corey!

With how many open races there are in NYC next year this thread would be better titled NYC 2021 Election or something of the sort. The whole political landscape of the city is about to change

Done

[KaiserDave]

I'm told from the inside, categorically, that all polls with Wiley ahead of Stringer should be ignored.

[KaiserDave]

None of these "Yang tweet scandals" remotely matter and no large amount of voters will see them or care.

[KaiserDave]

Scott is amazing as usual.

Unfortunately nobody cares about any of this.

[KaiserDave]

Is the WFP endorsement?
A little bird told me they were going for Dianne today....perhaps not?

Update: it is, yes!!!

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1382152274110210052?s=20

Speaking of demographics/electorates that are locked up behind a candidate.

Why don't they just nominate Stringer in the general election then, like any real political party would. It's not like they have to worry about the Republican winning a 3-way split.

The WFP isn’t a real political party, they’re only relevant here because of fusion laws

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1382152274110210052?s=20

Speaking of demographics/electorates that are locked up behind a candidate.

Why don't they just nominate Stringer in the general election then, like any real political party would. It's not like they have to worry about the Republican winning a 3-way split.

The WFP isn’t a real political party, they’re only relevant here because of fusion laws

But you don't have to worry about the Republican nominee in a current-day New York City general election, so if they disagree with the Democratic candidate of choice in the plausible event Andrew Yang wins the primary, why don't they run Stringer in the general?

They could, I think they've done that before. It's plausible.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1382152274110210052?s=20

Speaking of demographics/electorates that are locked up behind a candidate.

Why don't they just nominate Stringer in the general election then, like any real political party would. It's not like they have to worry about the Republican winning a 3-way split.

The WFP isn’t a real political party, they’re only relevant here because of fusion laws

But you don't have to worry about the Republican nominee in a current-day New York City general election, so if they disagree with the Democratic candidate of choice in the plausible event Andrew Yang wins the primary, why don't they run Stringer in the general?

They could, I think they've done that before. It's plausible.

They have?

They just need to grow a set of balls. I have so little respect for them following the 2018 governor election where they endorsed Cuomo - a guy they literally hated. That was such an embarassing about-face in political terms that party leaders should've resigned or been forced out. And what did they get for endorsing Cuomo? His stooges in state government literally tried to put them out of business which did not work this time but as collateral damage killed every other 3rd party in New York outside of the Conservative Party (which unlike the New York WFP have in the past showed they have a spine and will run their own guy instead of being a rubber stamp).

For some races, I think they have. But yes endorsing Cuomo was lame and pathetic.

[KaiserDave]

Do we have any idea what coalitions the candidates have locked down for sure? I understand it's early, but are there are any voting blocs that are unlikely to change who they're backing?

I have no knowledge of voter preferences on the ground, but I'm extremely confident Yang will win East/Southeast Asian voters. The COVID-19 pandemic and associated economic slump have probably handed him the nomination at this point.

Yang, Wiley, Morales, and maybe Menchaca.

I have the same top three and am also going for Yang desite understanding the criticisms of him, lol. (I actually live in Queens now, need to change my voter registration to the city) Heavy backing for Yang amongst my Asian-American friends here in NYC, even amongst the leftist types who were Bernie backers in 2020.

This post describes me pretty well aside from the "not strongly engaged" part.

Don't forget the young people who have positive impressions of Yang as a candidate from 2020 (and don't know much about the other candidates) and are not aware that he's one of the right wing candidates in this race. Despairing of that message breaking through before June.

Not talking about activist types here, just a bunch of people who were for Bernie or Warren but not strongly engaged in the political process. They should be a weak flank of the current Yang coalition but doesn't seem to be much movement there. I see a lot of them anecdotally.

Got any thoughts on Yang hate? I admit I am more inclined to support him because he is Asian, but I do think he'd be a more positive, competent and imaginative leader than the rest of the field. However I do think some of the criticisms of him, such as his presidential campaign's bro culture and that bad op-ed about Asian Americans having to prove their American-ness are legitimate. But they seem incommensurate with the level of hatred that he garners from twitter and heavily online people.

edit: Also don't think any of the criticism of him is racially motivated, which is good?

I used to think like you do (@Blairite ), but what does that even mean? Positive. Imaginative. These are meaningless buzzwords that mean nothing when it comes to the grit and skill needed to navigate city politics. Competent? Scott Stringer has served at every conceivable level of city government with immense success. Hey, Eric Adams is bad but he's been a Borough President. Diane Morales was in charge of non profits that make Yang's look irrelevant by comparison. Kathryn Garcia managed the largest sanitation department in the world and worked in the grind of mid level city bureaucracy. Shaun Donovan was HUD Secretary and OMB Chair.

What was Yang? Was a fairly successful businessman who ran a few non profits and a presidential campaign.

Competent? Maybe? More competent? Hilarious idea.

[KaiserDave]

Can't even say a remotely positive word about Yang in here without getting grilled for it

Either respond earnestly or just say you're not actually interested in a dialogue and/or don't like other opinions.

Edit: lol

[KaiserDave]

Yang is obviously the favorite, but this is actually a good poll for Scott. Moralesmentum is seemingly non existent, and he's ahead of Wiley. When his machine kicks into full gear, he can become Yang's primary competitor.

[KaiserDave]

Yang is obviously the favorite, but this is actually a good poll for Scott. Moralesmentum is seemingly non existent, and he's ahead of Wiley. When his machine kicks into full gear, he can become Yang's primary competitor.

Yeah, I actually do consider him the one remaining contender besides Yang, simply because he's the candidate most likely to be a lot of people's second choice. I don't know if it'll be enough unless he manages to close the gap with Yang and move into second, but everyone else seems boxed out.

Agreed, he has a broad coalition (I hope!).

[KaiserDave]

Tremendous new poll!

Yang 26
Adams 13
Stringer 11
Wiley 10
Donovan 7
McGuire 6
Garcia 4
Morales 3

Yang 61
Stringer 39

Yang 59
Adams 41

Yang 68
Wiley 32

Yang 73
Donovan 27

That's my boy!

I honestly wonder if he has a shot at winning Staten Island? I know that's pretty bold but if he can pick off a bit of the Trump/GOP base then maybe he has a decent shot at it?

He doesn't. He and Adams (and possibly Donovan) would do best, but it's voting R.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/ZachandMattShow/status/1383909631278206978?s=19

Looks like it's time for some consolidation.

No surprise to see Morales not existing in this demographic. In fact I'm starting to think she doesn't exist at all.

[KaiserDave]

What a great week for my guy Scott Stringer. Amazing. So proud to be working for his campaign!

[KaiserDave]

Calling it now. It's going to be Stringer.

Ah, the Beet prediction, the kiss of death. I should quit and go home.