Stricter sanctions against Russia

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Admiral Stavridis in his recent article calls for stricter sunctions against Russia http://time.com/5582867/mueller-report-trump-russia-sanctions/
He focuses on ban for Russian sportsmen, academics, and individuals from visting the US. He also suggests banning Putin from visiting the US. What is your opinion?


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[Proto]

Nobody should be banned from travelling to the United States based on race, religion, or nationality. 

Stavridis doesn't mean race, religion, and nationality. He means enemies of US democracy.

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Nobody should be banned from travelling to the United States based on race, religion, or nationality.  

Stavridis doesn't mean race, religion, and nationality. He means enemies of US democracy.

He calls for banning Russian citizens on the basis that they are Russians.  Sounds like nationality to me, kid.

Russian citizens are not only Russians. Besides I included the option to allow entrance for some categories. This is my personal choice. But I think that all Russian citizens who apply for a US visa must be asked the question if they approve of Crimea's occupation. Those who support it must be banned. The same must be done in EU.

[Proto]

Nobody should be banned from travelling to the United States based on race, religion, or nationality.  

This. And the Trump administration's Muslim Ban is unconstitutional. Other than John Roberts, no one seriously thinks Iranian-Americans who have committed zero terrorist attacks in the last 30 years are a serious threat to a country that has multiple shootings a week from armed domestic nutjobs.

Unfortunately, the Russians themselves, by intervening to get Trump elected, have made possible the precedent that could get them discriminated against one day.

Absolutely. I agree 100%.

[Proto]

There was no collusion and there is no reason to impose stricter sanctions on Russia. We should work towards normalizing relations between the West and Russia.

We are discussing Russian interference in election, which is beyond doubt, rather than collusion.

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Sure, but the West will continue influencing other elections, so there's no reason to cry the first time someone does it to America.

You can't really expect someone to stop doing something if you are doing it 10 times more with 10 times the resources...

Plus, Russia's interference was negligible all things considered.

You are wrong. Russian interference affected the election result and helped Trump to win, especially DNC hacking.

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You are wrong. Russian interference affected the election result and helped Trump to win, especially DNC hacking.

Yeah, I won't take your word for it, since you're the guy who writes "Oh Russian Russian you are small, you are brainless like a doll" lol.

Russian interference has been generally accepted and well corrobotated, no matter what I wrote about one putin bot. Actually, it's like some natural phenomena. If you deny Russian interference you may also deny the fact that the sun rises in the east.

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If you actually want to do something useful and not just virtue signal, you should pass the Securing America’s Elections Act.

Agreed