Trump admin defends inhumane conditions for children at its concentration camps

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It really is insane how many people don't understand that concentration camps =/= extermination camps. It's in the name: a concentration camp is a place where many people are concentrated. They existed before the Nazi death camps, and the Nazis distinguished between the two. In fact the earliest Nazi camps were simply private areas requisitioned by the state (or paramilitaries) in order to fit the various political prisoners that the Nazis wanted out of the picture when they first gained power.

I made a post highlighting all this but it was deleted... presumably not because of that part.

There was an article in Newsweek about this and it quoted George Takei who was interned at 2 camps during WWII in the US and a Jewish Holocaust historian that both agreed these are concentration camps.

I'll take their word over Hollywood's.

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People need to read and go back and study how the Holocaust unfolded. It might be uncomfortable for people to accept but the dehumanization of these migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers is very much the first step towards the heinous actions that occurred in Europe against the Jews.

No it's not.  The Jews didn't invade Germany.  Please stop pretending these are comparable instances.  My people were citizens of a country, rounded up like cattle, worked to death, and murdered for their religion and "race".  Nothing of the sort is happening in the United States, and the very idea of it is offensive to me. 

Amen.

Hope the wall will be there soon so that these detention centers won't be necessary anymore.

David B., what event happened in Germany in the 10 days before Kristallnacht, leading to Herschel Grynszpan’s shooting the bureaucrat in Paris?

Cheap Godwin. Grynszpan's parents were deported to Poland. They were German citizens. Not the same as people voluntarily moving to the U.S., and Latin American countries aren't comparable to Nazi Germany.

After 1935, Jews were not citizens of Germany.  They were state subjects under the law.  You and other blue avatars in this thread and elsewhere have made the argument over and over again that these immigrants in the US are subject to the law (which they 'broke') and that if we don't like the law then we need to change it.

Citizenship, rights, all of it... are subject to revocation at any time.  Especially when you need them most.

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I think we should avoid the Holocaust comparisons.

 the Japanese internment camp comparison is absolutely appropriate and thus more compelling.

That too was, "just enforcing the law".

Why has no one called you out for "False Equivilencies"?  Why?  Atlas is the place where the experts call people out for "False Equivilencies", so why haven't you been called out?  People have felt obliged to do so in far less time than I've done with you.

The Japanese Americans were just that:  Americans, and law-abiding citizens whose internment was, in no small measure, part of a land and loot grab.  It was shameful, but what made it shameful was that it was perpetrated against persons who were American citizens, and innocent American citizens at that.

The illegal aliens that have crashed are borders are not law-abiding and not citizens.  They have willfully crashed our borders or overstayed their visas to stay here, and they have refused to return to their homelands, missed court dates on their immigration issues, and disregarded our laws.  The detention centers for illegal immigrants are what they are (crowded and underfunded) because that system was not built for the number of illegal aliens we have now.  And illegal immigration is being encouraged by American leftists, who are sending out the message that once Trump is gone and a Democratic President is in the White House, "no sweat". 

The people in the detention centers either crashed our border or submitted asylum claims that were patently false.  Let's spend more on these facilities, so these folks will be more comfortable while they await deportation.  But let's deport those who should not be here.  Let's enforce our laws and send the message that we will do exactly that when it comes to our immigration laws.  The interests of American Citizens and Taxpayers are supposed to come before the interests of foreigners under our Constitution. 

They are a seeking Asylum. Until Trump Administration basically stack the deck to make it literally near impossible to legally buy for Asylum, they were almost all complying with the law. Remember, over 99% showed up for their hearings under the Obama Administration.

Sorry dude, according to the US Supreme Court in the lot the time, the Japanese internment was completely legal. That of course does it change it from being one of the most grotesque and unjust moments in American history. Analogy here is completely apt. And trust me, those Japanese, not all of whom were citizens by any means, were absolutely seen as Invaders. You are either intellectually dishonest or bankrupt in trying to claim otherwise.

The moral question is fundamentally different.  The interred Japanese were citizens (for the most part) who had broken no laws.  Today's detainees are neither.

The morality is precisely the same. Meaning of the interred Japanese were not citizens. But the bottom line is they are being detained in horrendous conditions as a manner of deterrence for immigration. The morality is the same. As a Christian you should theoretically understand that treating someone as a fellow Christian should be done regardless of what passport they hold!. And please don't embarrass yourself further by quoting whatever internet genius said that because biblical are the cities, which held literally about 2% of the population at the time, had walls sometime that what we're doing now is remotely biblical.

You are wrong about this being just enforcement of the law. You are wrong about this being race-neutral. You are wrong about this being moral. You are wrong about this being Christian by any measure. You are just plain wrong.

Don't cite Christianity or Jesus when pointing out FuzzyBear's enormous hypocrisies.

He got that Golden Ticket and damn it, he is gonna get into Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and get that Everlasting Gobstopper.

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1142540367797116929?s=20


But these children deserve it because they’re not American, you see.

Yeah eff those little bug infested freaks!  They shoulda thought about this before they broke our HOLY SACRED LAW and invaded us like a horde of rats.  I’d’ve taped em to the chain link wall and made em sleep standing up for WASTING MY TAX DOLLARS and AMERICAS PRECIOUS COMBS!!  [/certain blue avatars]