January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

[Ferguson97]

At the Appeals Court, Trump’s lawyers are currently, explicitly arguing that it would be perfectly legal for the president to assassinate a political rival.

[Ferguson97]

At the Appeals Court, Trump’s lawyers are currently, explicitly arguing that it would be perfectly legal for the president to assassinate a political rival.

Specifically they are arguing that he would be immune from prosecution unless he were impeached and convicted first. Even though Senate Republicans said that the reason they weren’t voting to convict him in 2021 (purportedly) was that he should be tried in court instead of being impeached and convicted!

Republicans? Being disingenuous liars? Who would’ve thought?!

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Even if you think he did, Dems had pretty much all of their evidence for the Jan 6 stuff in 2021. They waited 2 and a half years and now it's probably too late. The American legal system is incredibly slow, it took nearly 5 years for Nicholas Cruz to face trial and a year and a half for Rittenhouse.

It's so devious how you guys will move the goalposts like this. If we had done it sooner, you would claim that this is an obvious political persecution, since any serious charges would require a diligent investigation.

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Trump will obviously appeal, and Alito and Thomas will obviously rule in his favor. Roberts and the liberals will rule against him. So how do the Trump judges rule? We’d only need 1 of them.

[Ferguson97]

If Trump wins he needs to fire Jack Smith, and self pardon to ensure another witch hunt does not resume after he leaves office. And as extra salt in the wound because Dems played games with this, he should also pardon the Jan 6 rioters and hold a memorial for Ashil Babbitt.

You are an enemy of America.

[Ferguson97]

Trump’s plan to use Judge Cannon to block Judge Chutkan and avoid trial

Former President Donald Trump’s lawyers see a major opportunity this week to use his criminal document mishandling case in Florida to create an impasse on his calendar for the two federal judges overseeing his major criminal cases.

Juggling his campaign and court calendar and playing his cases off one another is a key part of Trump’s legal strategy. The ultimate goal, his team has said openly, is to prevent Trump from being tried in federal court before voters cast their ballots in the 2024 general election.

A primary aim for Trump’s legal team, according to people familiar with the strategy, is to put the judge in DC overseeing the 2020 federal election obstruction case, Tanya Chutkan, in a position where she can’t start a trial before Election Day.

“Meaning, ice her,” said a person familiar with Trump’s trial schedule strategy. “Making it impossible for her to jam a trial down before the election, by things that are out of her control.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/politics/trump-judge-cannon-chutkan-trial-plan/index.html

For all the talk of Trump's defense team being dumber than a bag of bricks from people here and elsewhere, I think they've actually done reasonably well in their efforts to delay all of Trump's trials but the weaker New York one.

It's the only strategy they have, because he's obviously guilty.

[Ferguson97]

In practice, I don't doubt that Trump would attempt to self-pardon if he's elected again, and the issue would then need to be settled by SCOTUS.

I honestly don’t know why Trump didn’t just resign at 11:50am and have Pence pardon him.

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Decision expected by July? This is wrong! The Court goes into its summer recess on June 30 like they always do.

I expect a Decision from the Roberts Court by June 30 at the latest possibly even earlier.

In other words… by July.

[Ferguson97]

If the Court rules that the President is completely above the law… we don’t have a country anymore. And I mean that sincerely.,

[Ferguson97]

Alito and Thomas genuinely deserve prison. I am tired of being told how intolerant I am for despising the people who want to destroy this country.

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When Supreme Court justices ask questions, they are often doing so in order to get a handle on where the attorney draws the line regarding the legal rule they're proposing. I have my problems with Alito and Thomas, but the posts in this thread demonstrate an insane lack of understanding of how oral arguments work. If the actual opinion they render is worth criticizing, we can talk about it when the time comes. But for now just stop the demented pearl-clutching and fearmongering.

In the case of the other four, you might have a point, but Alito and Thomas don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

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Put her in prison for life.