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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2022, 08:17:37 AM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-florida-crowd-theres-152839910.html

Criminal indictment means Prosecuted, not convicted and DOJ is being very careful because this Committee hasn't focused on Pelosi part of Security, it's one sided because of Liz Cheney, I would of wanted to know why Pelosi was in charge of Capitol security and didn't do her job, even as a partisan Democrat.

But, it's clear the D's want an indictment now because they want to save the H but we have sat on this info since Jan 2021


In addition to the fact it was a tragedy that our Police were in harms way, it wasn't a 911 event just like Benghazi 5 people died if masses got slaughtered it would of been more impactful
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« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2022, 12:48:59 PM »

No wonder Trump is cocky and arrogant ever since the insurrection, the RNC is paying his legal bills whatever McConnell, McCarthy and Graham said didn't mean nothing following insurrection
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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2022, 07:52:55 AM »

The RNc is paying Trump legal bills you have to mount a defense if you are criminally investigation
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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2022, 04:53:57 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2022, 04:58:52 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am tired of Garland slowness Lake is going after Hobbs on Election fraud he needs to indict now, otherwise there is a possibility Lake can get elected, Trump says since DOJ isn't going after him, he has done nothing wrong, I am tired of Garland impatience, he has sat on this info since Jan 2021

Trump says since DoJ hasn't charged him he is going after CNN fir unfounded claims of Criminal charges and deformation and we already know Garland is a member of Federalist society that's why I don't watch hearings

The reason why Trump is an Election denier the RNC is paying his legal bills, but the insurrection isn't going after us, they are going after Biden, this is different than Kennedy and many of the assassinations there were mass murders thru the 1980s and of course 911 but this domestic terrorist attack is going after Biden, if Lake wins there won't be a certificate of Election fot Kelly in 22 or Sinema or Biden in 24

Also in the sixties when Russia was at Cold War we were under international terrorist as well as Nuke war threat , again this domestic terrorist isn't going after us it's against Voting Rights
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2022, 04:29:54 PM »

Lol, nothing has happened yet, nothing, everyone is innocent until proven guilty except murders like we knew the people that committed the assassinations and mass murders and they were all Dahmer types including Oswald
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2022, 04:36:31 PM »
« Edited: August 10, 2022, 04:41:55 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am not downplaying what Trump did but all of the Defendents got convicted of Mob Action in law school that's a misdemeanor that carries up to 2 yrs imprisonment someone of Trump statue he is innocent until proven guilty on everything else of felony and the Govt isn't gonna get Trump on Mob Action that's too low of a sentence it's gonna be hard to prove a felony that's why GA Prosecution hasn't charged Trump it takes a lot to prove a felony, but Trump is guilty of Mob Action, and he can get as little as probation or up to 1 yr home confinement which is nothing, that's a waste of govt resources Mob Action many BLK protesters get convicted all the time of Mob Action

Rev Barber and Jesse Jackson were guilty of Mob Action protesting Sinema on Voting Rights and they were let out of prison that's how you know DOJ doesn't care about Mob Action
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2022, 07:02:28 PM »

After November the Trump brand name will be tarnished with INDICTMENT, but Trump was an unindicted Criminal already Done Jr allowed Russia to get access to DNC Emails thru WikiLeaks that showed D's bias over Bernie in the primary that's Espionage already

What would of happened if D's did that to Rs it would matter to Rs

Trump was only protected because he couldn't be indicted as Prez and Mueller thought he would pardon his son anyways, he only wants to get back in office to be immune again from prosecutor
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2022, 07:06:02 PM »

Trump never learns from the first criminal investigation because he was never an office holder he was a real estate agent turned Prez never held office before that's why we should never again elect another Trump they think they are above the law non officeholders

Rs still like Trump
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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2022, 03:27:11 AM »

I am getting impatient with Garland he raided Trump home and then gave him back his passport, the Rs are right we need an explanation into what is Garland doing if Rs take over the H they're gonna investigate him anyways.

I never was a fan of Garland, we know he hasn't investigate the insurrection commission like he should have but this raid its no grand jury empaneled or Crt filings or anything yet
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« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2022, 07:00:37 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2022, 07:03:56 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Rs are surging again, why, because Trump hasn't been indicted if the Ds lose you can Blame one person Merrick Garland whom was denied his judgeship like Marbury but we got Judicial Review and nulified slavery out of it, Marbury v Madison, that was easy, now we have an Unsecured border it's not over til voting begins but the Rs are beginning to surge again

I said D's were gonna pay a political price if Trump didn't get indicted if D's lose the Congress Trump can be Prez again in 24

The insurrection brought voter suppression laws and Sinema blocked Voting Rights that's where it all started and Biden said he was experienced to persuade the likes of Sinema to be flexible thru his 40 yrs in Senate he failed
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2022, 03:11:51 AM »

Trump is not gonna testify that is a waste of time because Rs are favs to take the H not the Senate and ACB, Kavangh and Gorsuch and Alito and Thomas particularly Alito and Gorsuch we need Kruger and Child's to eliminate to reaffirm the Roberts vote like Ginsberg did are protecting Rs with their Gerrymandering

They should have asked for Pence which would have been volunteering not a supeona now if Ds kept the H after the midterms then they should supeona Trump
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2022, 10:19:04 AM »

We already know he isn't gonna come out and this was analyzed on MSNBC unless Rs sweep Congress and that's unlikely and he can say and I told you so, Trump isn't testifying before Eday

His questions aren't on regular ballots and 2000 wasn't on Regular ballots it was the counting in 2000 on dimpled chads if dimpled chads would have been counted Gore would have won that's why Lieberman came out and Gave a scorching rebuke of SCOTUs, because he was Jewish and he felt older Jewish Dimpled chads weren't count, the question 2022 was on provisions ballots or how the ballots were counted too many convicted voted or too many provisional ballots were counted in wrong precinct that's why he told the SOS in GA to find him 11K votes pick out some of the provisional ballots were counted that the Rs felt were in the wrong precinct but since Ds are expected to hold serve on the 303 blue wall and possibly wave insurance in the Sen he can't claim the Eday was stolen, he isn't gonna testify until the results are in after 22

These are the same provisions ballots 300 K that can put Barnes ahead of Johnson because they go overwhelmed D
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2022, 05:11:58 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2022, 05:15:30 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

This Eday is not looking good, they can salvage a 303, map but this was the yr they could of picked up 5 Senate races where it looked a month ago OH, FL and NC as well as WI and PA, this is what happens when you let Trump run around unindicted the Rs take credit for doing better on the economy, but they won't they said they are gonna put bills on Biden s desk making tax cuts permanent and budget shutdowns gonna loom because Biden is gonna veto those bills, and yes Student Loans are gonna go back in Jan and no more state stimulus checks

The H is gone in November, even MSNBC which isn't an R network is saying that Ds are gonna fair poorly just like they did when Rs was Plus 7 on GCB
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« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2022, 11:24:12 PM »

I don't care about GA but Trump can be indicted for defying a Supeona and it looks like Rs aren't gonna win the Senate in order for him to prove that Eday was stolen they said in order for Trump to testify he need an R sweep but he isn't gonna get one Trump being prosecuted first on Contempt of Congress will be the first step for an all out Prosecution
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2022, 07:02:54 AM »

As I have always said it's gonna be very difficult not impossible to prosecute Trump because there wasn't many officials killed or kidnapped they can convict the MAGA people but getting to Trump is very difficult that's why no Orez has been indicted or Prosecuted because Nixon, Watergate, Reagan Iran Contra, Clinton Lewinsky, Bush W with Iraq War and Trump with Russia Espionage never directly involved killing if another person

We still have a Republican FBI agent at the helm and Republicans in the Crts to protect TRUMP
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2022, 02:24:55 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2022, 02:29:32 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

If Rs win in Nov, there will be very little appetite for prosecution of Trump because the Crts are R anyways Trump judges were installed before Biden judges and they adhere to SCOTUS

Whom can Rs thank partly is Putin because Gas prices went up again due to war they were never gonna normalize as long as the Ukraine War is going on even though they went down temporarily

I am still optimistic but storm clouds are brewing over Ds, there are a lot more blue avatars again on the forum

D4P just polled the states its a red wave, but it's votes that count
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« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2022, 06:55:11 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2022, 07:00:32 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am so tired not of the Committee but the hesitation of DOJ of Prosecuting Trump, and if GOP win Trump as I said earlier is gonna get emboldened and the R Crts are gonna lack an appetite for Prosecuting Trump, but Rs aren't winning anyways 24 we have the 303 map

The Crts are R anyways thanks to Hillary losing in 2016

What happened to the accused deserves a speedy trial
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« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2022, 10:00:33 PM »

It looks like this didn't help Ds in the Midterms and they are spending money on it, it looks like it's going away after the Midterms
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« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2022, 08:28:31 PM »

Committee gonna be shut down after we lose the H in January
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« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2022, 08:36:20 AM »

Well if they shut it down in H if Ds have 51/49 S they can repeal Filibuster and open up one in Senate, the Commission needs to finish it's work Bennet said the Ds regardless of the H they are looking at REPEAL of Filibuster anyways it comes down to Manchin not Sinema now if WARNOCK wins and Manchin was open to changing Filibuster on Voting Rights but was obstructed by Sinema
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« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2022, 11:01:00 AM »
« Edited: December 01, 2022, 11:06:05 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I am not celebrating until we hear the sentences we must aware of the sentences due to Trump and if DeSantis becomes the nominee, he is against Student Loan Discharge just like Clarence Thomas is against Affirmative Action and we can't Crt pack but if we Codify Students loans Discharge and Roe into Law Crt packing is a last resort , and also DeSantis may pardon Trump and insurrection

But clearly if we do Crt pack it should be 6/5 not 7/6 give way to CJ Roberts not Gorsuch
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« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2022, 01:21:38 PM »

They do not disallow him to run for office.

We want Trump to run he is Losing to Biden in FL he is the weakest Candidate he can beat DeSantis
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2022, 03:20:34 PM »

Would they hold a bench trial for Trump given I have zero idea if you can find an impartial jury for him

Isn't that decision up to Trump and his defense team, as he's entitled to a jury trial if he wants? If I'm Trump, I'm taking my chances with the jury since like you said, you'll never find an impartial jury. With 12 people, there's a very good chance you'll find at least one supporter.

It also is DC though and Trump lost DC by an 18:1 margin so that might not be the case.

1/12 is 8%, so it's pretty close to what he won in 2020. And he only needs 1 person.

Btw if you take the Biden's number in DC I calculated there is about a 37.5% chance every member on the jury would be a Biden supporter , on the other hand if you take the not Trump number there is about a 51.37% chance every member on the jury did not support Trump.



Trump has been impeached  stand FOREVER MORE and that is a blemish for 24 for him and DeSantis whom wants to Pardon Trump that's why DeSantis isn't gonna win VA the key state to win the Prez he is losing to Biden

Reagan should of been impeached for Iran Contra voters think he did nothing wrong, Bush H and Ollie North paid for their sins for Iran Contra they Lost
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« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2022, 03:48:43 PM »

ECHELON just released a poll shows Biden plus 8 over DeSantis and DeSantis won by 20 if that happens it's a 2008 Nightmare scenario for Rs but that won't happen but a 52/48 Landslide can happen

These Insurrection hearings are damaging to Rs no matter if they are found guilty on a Crt of law
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« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2022, 07:06:35 PM »

Old school is the only R defending Rs on this board a D DeSantis his preference for Prez is losing by 8 once Rs lose in 24 Trump is gonna be found guilty we don't know when there is gonna be a trial but he is almost certainly gonna be indicted
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