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« on: May 19, 2021, 06:31:48 PM »

~17% of Republicans voting for it means that it's still DOA in the Senate unless & until they go nuclear.
Can't the House just do their own investigation without Senate approval? The Republicans did that for Benghazi.

Remember though, Republicans have their own set of rules and if Democrats did the same thing it would cause a s***fit by most GOP politicians.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2021, 06:37:11 PM »

By the way, maybe it's just my hate-crush for her that made me notice this, but I'm surprised Mace wasn't among the 35 voting for the commission. It would have been an easy layup for her to reinforce the "reasonable Republican" image she's tried to cultivate and even fooled me with for a bit, especially when I saw some of her interviews on the day of the insurrection. She's probably relying on the old "there is nothing new to learn and we shouldn't be antagonizing Trump supporters" cop-out. Coward!

On the flip-side, I am loving pissed off Tim Ryan. I used to never care for him much and his "golly gee! Can't we all work together?" moderate image, but the Beer Belly Putsch really seems to have been a wake-up call for him in how he looks at his colleagues. I can't blame him, it was a wake-up call to the country that can't be forgotten about or obfuscated as the majority of the GOP seems intent on doing. That's why we need this commission. You're damn right that I'm endorsing it as much for the political theater as for shedding light on the incident. This never needs to happen again and in a just world should destroy the Republican Party in its Trump hive-mind form.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2021, 07:04:10 PM »

By the way, maybe it's just my hate-crush for her that made me notice this, but I'm surprised Mace wasn't among the 35 voting for the commission. It would have been an easy layup for her to reinforce the "reasonable Republican" image she's tried to cultivate and even fooled me with for a bit, especially when I saw some of her interviews on the day of the insurrection. She's probably relying on the old "there is nothing new to learn and we shouldn't be antagonizing Trump supporters" cop-out. Coward!

Pretty much, yeah:



Oh, honey...
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2021, 07:11:12 PM »

By the way, maybe it's just my hate-crush for her that made me notice this, but I'm surprised Mace wasn't among the 35 voting for the commission. It would have been an easy layup for her to reinforce the "reasonable Republican" image she's tried to cultivate and even fooled me with for a bit, especially when I saw some of her interviews on the day of the insurrection. She's probably relying on the old "there is nothing new to learn and we shouldn't be antagonizing Trump supporters" cop-out. Coward!

Pretty much, yeah:



Oh, honey...

As I said the other day, Mace has turned out to be an immense disappointment.

I felt exactly the same way. I used to think in the immediate aftermath of the insurrection too that she was one of the lesser downgrades from districts that flipped GOP, but clearly I was wrong.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2021, 07:27:21 PM »

By the way, maybe it's just my hate-crush for her that made me notice this, but I'm surprised Mace wasn't among the 35 voting for the commission. It would have been an easy layup for her to reinforce the "reasonable Republican" image she's tried to cultivate and even fooled me with for a bit, especially when I saw some of her interviews on the day of the insurrection. She's probably relying on the old "there is nothing new to learn and we shouldn't be antagonizing Trump supporters" cop-out. Coward!

Pretty much, yeah:



Oh, honey...

As I said the other day, Mace has turned out to be an immense disappointment.

I felt exactly the same way. I used to think in the immediate aftermath of the insurrection too that she was one of the lesser downgrades from districts that flipped GOP, but clearly I was wrong.

Mace has turned out to be significantly worse than Cunningham. It's clear that this woman has ambitions for higher office-perhaps for Senate or for Governor-and is positioning herself for such a run. That also explains the actions which have been taken by Elise Stefanik. Congressional Republicans-and Republicans at the statewide level-seem to believe that they cannot disengage themselves from Trump if they wish to seek further advancement in their careers.

She definitely wants to be a Senator from South Carolina. She even ran against Tim Scott in the primary for that seat, if I recall. Ambition really is the top priority for most Republicans these days, and that's such a shame. I know that's it's always part of politics for any party or individual, but it's everything with the GOP it seems.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2021, 06:03:49 PM »

I know that it is a waste of time to ever make this point, but here it goes! Imagine if the Democratic minority did this about the 9/11 commission. Would the party even exist today? I wish I was surprised by the result though, but I feel that it is always reasonable to expect our republic to be dysfunctional. How sad...

If we can’t nuke the Filibuster after this, there really is no hope left for this country

Blame Joe Manchin. If he was smart he would have threatened McConnell that he will get Sinema to go along with him to nuke the filibuster unless he and the GOP approve the commission. Instead he basically conceded all of his power as the nation's most powerful Senator to McConnell, as if he was still Majority Leader, and shrug his shoulders and say "well, what are you gonna do?" McConnell benefited both ways from his "I encourage you to vote for the commission but also won't allow any consequences if you don't." he allowed this situation to be a win-win for the greatest villain of the last decade.

If Biden's goals become nonexistent after the potential infrastructure bill, especially if when the GOP takes back the House and maybe even the Senate too, history will remember Manchin and Sinema as other great villains in our nation's history, alongside McConnell and Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2021, 06:10:03 PM »

Can somebody explain to me what the Jan. 6 commission that Democrats want to summon would do that the Dept. of Justice has not been doing?

You could have said the same thing about 9/11. It's a matter of consistency and principles. 9/11 was a terrorist attack on the country and so was 1/06. If the institution of Congress investigated the attack from 20 years ago, they should do the same for this one from mere months ago that directly assaulted them to cover all bases possible and prevent a future attack, and uncover if there was any internal subterfuge that aided and abetted the siege to boot.
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