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Question: Who wins Dem primary?
#1
Gretchen Whitmer
 
#2
Shri Thanedar
 
#3
Abdul el-Sayed
 
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Total Voters: 81

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« on: July 31, 2018, 06:41:16 PM »

Not every woman is going to end up like Clinton. Whitmer will probably win.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 04:19:20 PM »

Not every woman is going to end up like Clinton. Whitmer will probably win.

Every woman is potentially subject to misogyny - which some folks here will never accept, but I was proven right about Hillary when very few people agreed with me, and it looks like I'll be proven right about Whitmer.

Sexism is a broad problem in most of the world but this year seems somewhat different with how successful female candidates have been. We're seeing a change.

By the way, I must note how interesting it is that you still advocate against sexism in politics yet now identify as a Trumpian Republican. More than likely, someone like that is in denial of sexism.  Embracing the most chauvinistic, toxic masculine President in our country's history, while scorning misogyny is a bit of a confusing ideology.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2018, 04:11:55 PM »

Not every woman is going to end up like Clinton. Whitmer will probably win.

Every woman is potentially subject to misogyny - which some folks here will never accept, but I was proven right about Hillary when very few people agreed with me, and it looks like I'll be proven right about Whitmer.

Sexism is a broad problem in most of the world but this year seems somewhat different with how successful female candidates have been. We're seeing a change.

By the way, I must note how interesting it is that you still advocate against sexism in politics yet now identify as a Trumpian Republican. More than likely, someone like that is in denial of sexism.  Embracing the most chauvinistic, toxic masculine President in our country's history, while scorning misogyny is a bit of a confusing ideology.

The left doesn't really care about sexism. It's a lost cause. In politics, the mechanisms are always too vague to get a handle on, it usually manifests itself in very general ways like enthusiasm gaps or unexplained likability/unlikability. So there's no real way to fight against it. You end up looking like an idpol-obsessed idiot chasing phantoms. So I gave up that fight. Stacey Abrams won because her race is more significant than her gender in the eyes of Democrats. Other than that, I have a hard time seeing the Democrats let a woman have the nod for the Governorship of a state was big as Michigan, in this day and age.

Trump has some chauvinistic tendencies but he has hired plenty of women (Press Secretary, CIA Director, DHS Secretary). Misogyny will always be an issue close to my heart but there are more important problems right now.

Hiring women is a positive action but it doesn't necessarily mean that those women represent American women at-large or their interests.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 07:09:26 PM »

Taking as  money as she did from blue cross and blue shield kind of hurts the idea that you are a progressive. Several other camdidates might only want public option but they want to get money out of politics. Ah well. Not like sp is doable at the state level. Stayed was too nerdy for Michigan but I would love to see him as secretary of HHS under a dem president.
Are you guys SERIOUSLY going to make EVERY election a reprise of Bernie vs. Hillary?!


Because the left has learned to use Bernie-style tactics against their primary opponents. Call them corporate shills, dig up some one-time donation from one of their bogeymen from 15 years ago, and scream that they’re actually a conservative Republican pretending to be a Democrat when their platform is verbatim compared to their anointed candidate.

Then when their anointed, usually unelectable candidate doesn’t win the primary, they have a three-year-old temper tantrum and refuse to vote for the nominee. Some have the sense to come home in November, but others vote for Jill Stein and allow Trump to win a plurality.

Whether the Democratic candidate wins or not, they spend the offseason babbling about defecting to a new party and watching Cenk Uygur all day.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 08:11:59 PM »

a lot of ads and outreach in Detroit proper alone

Fascinating that none of this poured out into the suburbs at all. Thanedar's campaign will go down as one of the strangest/most quixotic this cycle.

JMC map of WayneCo:

Wow Detroit...

If you compare that map to a demographic map, you see some really interesting patterns. Notice that the town of Inkster is a Thanedar exclave. Inkster is one of the only majority black suburbs of Detroit, so it's pretty clear that Thanedar had particular appeal to black voters, which is, well... odd.



Perhaps Trump's "I love Hispanics" burrito bowl tweet was similarly effective after all. Maybe it explains why he improved on Romney's margin with those "hispanics."
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