Trump approval ratings thread 1.3

[Progressive Pessimist]

Drumpf is not very popular in New Jersey (Quinnipiac):

32% Approve
63% Disapprove

Source

Thanks for the 3-4 seats, Drumpf.

And thanks for the dummymander, Christie.

It's hilarious how badly the design of these districts backfired over the course of a few years.

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Based Murphy is gonna gerrymander that sucka soon
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I look forward to Chris Smith being the only GOP member of the Congressional delegation at some point in the future.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Drumpf is not very popular in New Jersey (Quinnipiac):

32% Approve
63% Disapprove

Source

Thanks for the 3-4 seats, Drumpf.

And thanks for the dummymander, Christie.

It's hilarious how badly the design of these districts backfired over the course of a few years.

Based Murphy is gonna gerrymander that sucka soon

I look forward to Chris Smith being the only GOP member of the Congressional delegation at some point in the future.
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I would rather a map that draws two GOP vote sinks (one in NW Jersey and another Ocean County/southern Monmouth seat) to prevent a Democratic dummymander. Such a map would also be extremely clean.
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I'd be fine with that too actually. I was mostly being facetious before.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Dude was outsmarted a porn star. Lawd Jesus halp us
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[Progressive Pessimist]

AP survey of 1027 Americans age 15-34 only, Feb 22-March 9

Approve 33 (Strongly 12)
Disapprove 67 (Strongly 47)

"Most conservative generation in history"

I never quite understood how the most ethnically and racially diverse generation in US history was supposed to be the Hitler Youth 2.0.

Because they watch JonTron on Youtube or something.

[Progressive Pessimist]

It really doesn't matter about the approvals, Drumpf has an obstruction of justice impeachment case against him, going to the polls in Nov, and voters want justice to be served and they know in order to get that Nancy Pelosi and Schumer must be in leadership. That's why MS, TN and TX are close in the Senate right now.

You must be high, if you believe that Drumpf will be removed from office, because the best Democrats can realistically do this year is win a narrow House Majority (225-210 at most), and a narrow 51-49 Senate Majority (flipping Nevada and Arizona, while holding all their seats). This means for Drumpf to be removed from office, a whopping 16 Republican senators would have to vote to remove him (Assuming a Democratic House impeaches him and all 51 Democratic Senators vote to remove him). Honestly, can you name 16 Republican Senators that would vote to remove Donald Drumpf (if they would vote to remove him they would at the least face tough primary challenges, and at the worst face Death threats and assasination attempts from deranged White Nationalists and Christian Fundamentalists)?

King Lear speaks the cold, hard truth here.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Drumpf's change in approval in one week in 5 recent polls.

Rasmussen: +4
Yougov: +5
Morning Consult: +3
Gallup: +3
Quinnipiac: +2

Holy f**kin sh**t. This twitter maga person must be trawling this forum and copied my post.

https://twitter.com/Rockprincess818/status/984147945850220544

Hey, if you're reading this, rockprincess.

F*****K OFF

She plagiarizes like her favorite First Lady.

[Progressive Pessimist]

The American people are ignorant to blatant stupidity

[Progressive Pessimist]

dear white men,

pls stop

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/985467240777699329
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/985467066420551681

As a white man myself, I am at liberty to tell you that we really are the worst.

[Progressive Pessimist]

dear white men,

pls stop

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/985467240777699329
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/985467066420551681

As a white man myself, I am at liberty to tell you that we really are the worst.

Can you confirm that all of your family Thanksgivings are like the ones in this tweet thread?

Hehehe kind of. On top of everything I do have that proverbial "conservative uncle" who creates a political argument every year. But he's not my uncle, he's my grandma's boyfriend and I hate him for reasons that don't even relate to his politics, though that certainly doesn't help.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Wow. Drumpf is plummeting!

When Limo says this, you know it's significant!

[Progressive Pessimist]

This thread is peak Atlas seriously.

Shrug. Sad to see such indifference from a fellow red avatar though.

Nobody is indifferent. some of us are just not going to melt down over a poll that even the pollster thinks is a probable outlier (and credit to Reuters for including a Disclosure and releasing it anyways). A 5-6 point spike in a one day sample is just not realistic, not compared against real but much more modest rises among other pollsters.

It is more than one poll. Nearly 18 months into this administration, which has been a revolving door of corrupt and incompetent cabinet members, a slow revelation of the campaign's cooperation with a hostile foreign power during the election (FFS, we have a known meeting between Don Jr, Kushner, Manafort, and a Russian agent IN DRUMPF TOWER AFTER THEY WERE PROMISED DIRT ON HILARY CLINTON, and yet 2 out of those 3 are still actively involved in either the day-to-day operations of the White House or in the public messaging aspect of the administration, meanwhile the other is probably going to spend his life in a fukcing jail, when was the last time that happened to a major presidential campaign manager), not to mention the ethical dumpster fire that is Donald J. Drumpf, a serial liar, philanderer, and wanna-be authoritarian, and his approval ratings across the board are still basically 40%. Had Barack Obama been responsible for anything that had occurred in the last 18 months, he would've been forced to resign by now, after having an approval rating that fell to about 2%. I would never have continued to support him, after all of this. The same fate would befall almost any other leader of any organization, had they been saddled with similar baggage or found to have been involved in such widespread wrongdoing. But this tangerine fartbag just gets to keep being president, and have a 40% approval rating too. No consequences, no oversight. Nothing. Its maddening, frankly.

I feel your pain. The frustration is real for people like us, but unfortunately we have become a  rarity. The American people have become apathetic and that is fueling Trump and his normalization. I wish more people cared about Trump's lifelong objectionable behavior but it is just not the country we are living in anymore. Hell, it extends to other countries too. Just look at the UK, The Philippines, Italy, Hungary, and so on. Humanity in itself is having a political crisis that it doesn't seem wary enough of. It's a damn shame to have to think like this about our fellow humans who are so easily manipulated by con artists, but it is the truth. It's a truth I have become resigned to. It shouldn't be irrational to feel anxious about the conduct of our leaders, but it almost feels like it is. Are we the ones who are abnormal after all? Is humanity devolving back into its most primal, tribalistic, instinctual form? Am I being over dramatic? I don't feel like I understand anything anymore.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Nobody posting the new ipsos poll?

RV:

49% Approval
47% Disapproval


Adults:

48% Approve
50% Disapprove

Am I in an alternate universe? How the hell is trump around 45% among RV on 538?

Nope. It's our universe. I personally have gotten used to how embarrassing, frustrating, and disappointing it is.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Drumpf's black support in the Reuters tracking poll just collapsed from 22% to 13% in a week. What does this mean!??! I expect a dozen headlines to be written over this.

Kanye Bump Over, confirmed

In reality that support was never really there but maybe they all listened to the "poopidy shoop" song and realized that Kanye truly earned his infamous reputation. Actually it's probably his best song for how funny it is. I never liked any of his music, even back before he went off the rails.

[Progressive Pessimist]

You guys would rather bad things to happen to America if it meant his numbers would drop

Drumpf is a bad thing happening to America

[Progressive Pessimist]

I see some Republicans temporarily forgot about the tax cut again. They’ll remember a few more times before November.

It's all about the NFL now. Haven't you heard? It's their winning issue according to media pundits.

[Progressive Pessimist]

President Obama can no longer get any blame for any economic meltdown. Any fault goes to Drumpf from here on.

Agreed, though if that is the case, are voters now more likely to associate the good economy with Drumpf and not Obama?

Unfortunately yes even though all he has done for it is sign a tax cut bill and introduce unnecessary tariffs.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Are Americans seriously this daft? The President is throwing children into cages like animals and they don’t give a sh**t? Jesus Christ.

Yes.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Interesting on the approval map, Georgia is Trump's worst state in the south, worse even than Florida.

Even Virginia?

[Progressive Pessimist]

Twenty42 - I think there may be some validity to your theory, though I’d dispute/debate the size of such an effect. I’ve long felt that 2016 was a poisoned chalice and whoever won it would be a one-term POTUS.

I must admit...there were a couple fleeting moments where I considered voting for Hillary in 2016 in hopes of a Republican landslide in 2020. I came home in the end, of course.

Everything is an exercise in conjecture two years before the election, but I don't see Trump getting defeated in 2020 if the economy is good and we are at peace on the world stage. There is no reason to fire an incumbent when the two qualifications of a successful presidency are being fulfilled.

If I had known about Donald Trump otherwise being the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have voted for Romney in 2012.  We rarely think that far ahead, do we? Eight years of Mitt Romney is far better than the two decades (or so it now seems) of sociopathic leadership  that thinks a bare majority a pretext for turning America into a dictatorship.

The biggest qualification of a leader in any activity except a crime syndicate is to act with integrity, a commodity about as commonplace in this President as is as Element 119. You may not realize how dangerous this President is -- but aside from gangsters, the only analogues are tyrants.

This President undermines everything that our Founding Fathers stood for. God help us should we need a new bunch.

I have come to kind of resent the Founding Fathers. In a way, they created this mess by creating the unsustainable system we have today that has only gotten worse. Democracy is often considered the "least worst" political system but we have the absolute worst of that least worst system. I know that creating a democracy from scratch is a near-impossible task, but ours is truly a monster of its own creation.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Twenty42 - I think there may be some validity to your theory, though I’d dispute/debate the size of such an effect. I’ve long felt that 2016 was a poisoned chalice and whoever won it would be a one-term POTUS.

I must admit...there were a couple fleeting moments where I considered voting for Hillary in 2016 in hopes of a Republican landslide in 2020. I came home in the end, of course.

Everything is an exercise in conjecture two years before the election, but I don't see Trump getting defeated in 2020 if the economy is good and we are at peace on the world stage. There is no reason to fire an incumbent when the two qualifications of a successful presidency are being fulfilled.

If I had known about Donald Trump otherwise being the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have voted for Romney in 2012.  We rarely think that far ahead, do we? Eight years of Mitt Romney is far better than the two decades (or so it now seems) of sociopathic leadership  that thinks a bare majority a pretext for turning America into a dictatorship.

The biggest qualification of a leader in any activity except a crime syndicate is to act with integrity, a commodity about as commonplace in this President as is as Element 119. You may not realize how dangerous this President is -- but aside from gangsters, the only analogues are tyrants.

This President undermines everything that our Founding Fathers stood for. God help us should we need a new bunch.

I have come to kind of resent the Founding Fathers. In a way, they created this mess by creating the unsustainable system we have today that has only gotten worse. Democracy is often considered the "least worst" political system but we have the absolute worst of that least worst system. I know that creating a democracy from scratch is a near-impossible task, but ours is truly a monster of its own creation.

It was totally sustainable... in 1789. The issue is that the system isn’t designed to handle parties mapped cleanly on regional, ideological and cultural lines all at once.

That is exactly my point. The constitution really should have been amended or updated throughout its lifetime.

[Progressive Pessimist]

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1014914140962422784

Honestly the unemployment rate is all that’s keeping him out of the low 30s IMO

Agreed. If a recession hits he's toast.

Reagan and Obama solved economic problems.  Trump has solved nothing.

If anything Trump has caused more problems. Reagan too.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Global Strategy Group, July 5-8, 1000 registered voters

Approve 43 (strongly 19)
Disapprove 56 (strongly 47)

I believe this is a D-associated firm, and don't find a previous poll from them for comparison.

OOF those strongly numbers

I mean the approval and disapproval isn't itself awful, but when 47% of the country STRONGLY disapproves with only 19% strongly approving, that is very concerning.

Yeah well said.

Looks like the Trump cult is starting to lose faith in their leader.

That will never happen. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Trashmussen-

Approve: 45% (-1)
Disapprove: 54% (+1)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

Considering the source, that is actually an atrocious poll for the Deflector-in-Chief.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Hmm, is this a possible reaction to Putin meetup? If so, there's no reason this wouldn't dissipate in a few weeks. The American Public has the attention of a goldfish when it comes to Russia anything.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Quinnipiac:

58% Disapprove (51% Strongly) (+3)
38% Approve (28% Strongly) (-2)

Source

This poll makes me happy, but Trump seems to have a bedrock of 38% support for almost every poll even slightly related to him.