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Question: Is the Uk election between Johnson/Corbyn a good barometer for Trump vs Sanders?
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adamevans
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« on: December 13, 2019, 10:05:33 AM »

Bojo has a long history of criticizing and publicly speaking against Trump. UK Conservatives are more akin to US moderate Democrats, Johnson ran a campaign on expanding public services. Lmao at all the Trump supporters cheering his win.
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adamevans
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2019, 02:58:21 PM »
« Edited: December 19, 2019, 12:58:34 PM by Barron »

Bojo has a long history of criticizing and publicly speaking against Trump. UK Conservatives are more akin to US moderate Democrats, Johnson ran a campaign on expanding public services. Lmao at all the Trump supporters cheering his win.

I agree on the global idea that UK Conservatives are to the left of the GOP, but they're probably to the right of most democrats, let's say they are ''Kasich Republicans''

I’ve never seen Kasich or any of the moderate Republicans call for expanding public programs like Boris Johnson did. Perhaps you could compare them to Phil Scott or Charlie Baker if any Republican. This whole counter-narrative that the U.S is actually in the mainstream on the developed world political debate seems more contrarian than anything, or Republicans reaching for straws. The political landscape of the UK is much different than the US.
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adamevans
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2019, 02:08:33 PM »

No. Stop trying to force American Politics into everything.

This, I've had this discussion with people outside of atlas as well.

TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. Is this type of American-centric attitude that makes so many people have a natural dislike for the country.

I also 100% agree with Barron, Boris (and most Tories aside from the obvious: Mogg, Gove, Cornerstone group) would be a Democrat in the US no question about it. Find me a Kasich Republican who supports expanding public services, or who would preserve any system resembling the NHS, Boris may be hurting the NHS, but a "Kasich Republican's" ideals would see it torn to dust.

LOL. Kasich expanded public services, have you already forgotten he basically expanded medicaid ?

Did....did you just compare Medicaid to the NHS?

Not me, but it's a good analogy. They hold a similar place politically (much as I'd like to abolish the second one and cut the first one).
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The place they hold politically is
A. Still Different, considering that even Tories shiver to call for its abolition whereas Republicans like to talk about "reforming" Medicaid to a nonexistent point daily
B. Irrelevant to the fact that the two systems only share a similarity in that they are healthcare related, they are vastly different

A. That's a good point, but it also compounds the liberalness of Kasich in expanding it. (On a personal note, Kasich really pulled a RINO on that one, I liked him before that).

B. We're talking about politics here though, not policy.

The point is that the Overton window in the UK is shifted so much to the left that, in context of U.S politics, Boris would resemble a Democrat, albeit a more moderate and conservative one. The NHS and Medicaid are incomparable on policy.
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