UK General Discussion: Rishecession

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Graham Brady has arrived at No.10.

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Graham Brady has arrived at No.10.

Also, the rumoured meeting of the 1922 Executive isn't happening today, perhaps because they view it as futile.

That makes sense - MPs have started briefing that the 1922 Executive, including Brady, should be removed if they don’t act quickly. Holding a meeting where they don’t agree to make any serious moves would only speed that up, and further divide the party.

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Liz actively waving goodbye to ERG support:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1583049846264459264

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https://mobile.twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/1583050472046596098?s=20&t=y9Y-B...

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From the briefings it seems that Truss aides didn't know of the meeting until Brady was seen walking in. Lines such as "measuring the temperature of the party" are being put about. Coffey, meanwhile, would probably be the top choice for caretaker PM if that scenario arises.

It’s wild that they’ve called Brady in to do the whole “taking the temperature of the party” stuff, given that’s the Chief Whip’s role. Speaks to just how powerless the whips are after yesterday.

Personally, I think it’s very hard to see Coffey as caretaker, given her alleged role in the MP bullying incident last night (not to mention the stream of gaffes she’s made as Health Secretary).

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Police escort vehicles now idling at the Downing Street back entrance, according the pool photographer. Same vehicles that escort the PM to the Palace. Things getting very febrile.

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Police escort vehicles now idling at the Downing Street back entrance, according the pool photographer. Same vehicles that escort the PM to the Palace. Things getting very febrile.

The human hand grenade calls a general election?

I’d assume a resignation is more likely - but I’m not even sure if the King is back in London yet. Who knows in this environment though…

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https://twitter.com/ConHome/status/1583065631896657921?s=20&t=Sm6IpWZVSS1p6fs7e5pz6Q

Beat me to it. It’s a bruising editorial - definitely worth a read. It appears MPs were actively lied to, regarding the confidence vote. And it ends with this:

I made my views known to Sir Graham Brady earlier this week. The Prime Minister has shown breath-taking economic and political incompetence during her short tenure in office. It is not responsible for the party to allow her to remain in power. Not when her actions can have such detrimental consequences for our constituents.

So I add my small voice to the groundswell of others. Step aside, go, and let someone who is up to the task take on the great privilege and responsibility of leading our great country and party.

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https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1583071770361618434

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_length_of_tenure

Man - 56/56. I expect that will be both her tenure, and approval ranking.

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https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1583076100330074113?t=vTjSQo4Km_zlD7uoh0...

Continuity Chancellor?

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So weak. They need to take a page from Republicans. Trump and co. would have fought till' the bitter end.

If they had, British voters would have done what Republican voters lack the spine to do, and actually abandoned the party.

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Small units of time in politics used to be measured in the tenure of Scottish Labour leaders. The current leader has outlasted two PM's.

By my reckoning, Truss lasted around 0.1 Dugdales.

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https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1583092314846941184
One day, I will be a calm and rational poster, who doesn't fall for defection rumours. But today is not that day.

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https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1583092314846941184
One day, I will be a calm and rational poster, who doesn't fall for defection rumours. But today is not that day.

And by "national interest" he means of course himself.

Zero doubt. He holds a fair portion of responsibility for the s**tshow of the past month. His "caretaker" government did nothing on the energy crisis for a month, and he actively whipped his supporters to support Truss.

Forget Truss - he's the real human handgrenade.

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https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1583092314846941184
One day, I will be a calm and rational poster, who doesn't fall for defection rumours. But today is not that day.

Labour should tell whoever that is to sit and spin. Why reward careerist slimes?

At this point, it's unclear whether Labour would admit them - they've already picked most of their candidates for the next election. But Tory MPs resigning the Conservative Whip is a positive sign in its own right, whether they sit as independents or opposition party MPs.

Cut this majority to tatters, and speed up the calling of a fresh general election.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1583010393764790272

At this point who the hell cares about parties?

It’s not specifically about the parties - it’s about the impact that bringing Johnson back would have. This inquiry could still see Johnson suspended from the Commons for a week or two - which could force a by-election in his seat.

Between that, and the optics of reappointing a man under investigation to run the country, this is a point about where the party goes next. Picking Johnson isn’t feasible, but some loyalist MPs still need to be convinced of that. Nadine Dorries is beyond anyone’s help, but some others might be able to be convinced to back a unity ticket instead.

We all know in the back of our minds that this is exactly what's going to happen now.

If he gets into the final two - yeah, he'll come back. My blood pressure has increased just at the thought.

But there's significant pressure going on behind the scenes amongst Tory MPs to box him out - many see it as the final humiliation for the party.

No idea how it'll play out at this point though.

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https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1096840863873929216

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https://twitter.com/camillahmturner/status/1583121622113824769

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In the end, Liz Truss united broken Britain after all:

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/10/20/adc3c/1

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I promised myself I wouldn't go all out on any more defection/whip-resignation rumours without some decent attribution. But, we have at least one MP willing to go on the record with his threat:
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1583131862360158208
Reinforced by ITV's Paul Brand. If nothing else, feels like a concerted attempt by backbenchers to kill the idea of Boris as a unity candidate.

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BRING BORIS BACK

No.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/kaitborsay/status/1583183940785172480