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Question: Should Bill Clinton have resigned after the Lewinsky scandal?
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NoTrump
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« on: December 07, 2017, 12:16:38 AM »

I voted Yes since he abused his position of power by having sex with a much younger employee.

Also, even if the Democrats were opposed to removing Clinton from office through the impeachment process, they could have still tried pressuring him to resign. Unfortunately, they refused to do this and ended up paying the price for this when Al Gore lost to Dubya in 2000. Sad
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NoTrump
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 12:31:20 AM »

he should have resigned after he let a million Rwandans butcher each other with kitchen utensils while he stood by and did nothing. Dick Cheney wouldn't have let that happen.
Um ... Darfur?
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NoTrump
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 01:39:06 AM »

No. Being a bad husband isn't wrong the way sexual harrasment is.
The issue wasn't him being a bad husband; rather, the issue was him exploiting and abusing his position of power.
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NoTrump
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 02:26:36 AM »

No. He had consensual sex with an adult woman. He's an adulterer, but that is not a crime, nor something that disqualifies you from holding public office.

Not solely due to Lewinsky. A power imbalance is not in itself abuse; many women are attracted to powerful men, and for understandable reasons. It is only abuse if the power was leveraged coercively; this does not seem to be so in Lewinsky's case. Now, if the Juanita Broaddrick, or any number of other accusations where he forced himself on women were credible, then yes. So overall, probably still yes, but not solely due to Lewinsky.

Do you believe that it should be legal for parents to have sex with their adult children? Also, do you think that it would be appropriate for them to do this? (Legal and appropriate are not quite the same thing.)

Basically, this is what Clinton's affair with Lewinsky should probably be compared to.
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NoTrump
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2017, 05:01:04 PM »

No. He had consensual sex with an adult woman. He's an adulterer, but that is not a crime, nor something that disqualifies you from holding public office.

Not solely due to Lewinsky. A power imbalance is not in itself abuse; many women are attracted to powerful men, and for understandable reasons. It is only abuse if the power was leveraged coercively; this does not seem to be so in Lewinsky's case. Now, if the Juanita Broaddrick, or any number of other accusations where he forced himself on women were credible, then yes. So overall, probably still yes, but not solely due to Lewinsky.

Do you believe that it should be legal for parents to have sex with their adult children? Also, do you think that it would be appropriate for them to do this? (Legal and appropriate are not quite the same thing.)

Basically, this is what Clinton's affair with Lewinsky should probably be compared to.
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No. He had consensual sex with an adult woman. He's an adulterer, but that is not a crime, nor something that disqualifies you from holding public office.

Not solely due to Lewinsky. A power imbalance is not in itself abuse; many women are attracted to powerful men, and for understandable reasons. It is only abuse if the power was leveraged coercively; this does not seem to be so in Lewinsky's case. Now, if the Juanita Broaddrick, or any number of other accusations where he forced himself on women were credible, then yes. So overall, probably still yes, but not solely due to Lewinsky.

Do you believe that it should be legal for parents to have sex with their adult children? Also, do you think that it would be appropriate for them to do this? (Legal and appropriate are not quite the same thing.)

Basically, this is what Clinton's affair with Lewinsky should probably be compared to.



Appeal to ridicule fallacy.

Indeed, someone here mentioned that Clinton's affair with Lewinsky was consensual. In turn, I pointed out that, just like adult incest, it is consensual but with a power imbalance between the parties.

If you are going to criticize my analogy here, how about you tell me why exactly it is invalid. Also, for the record, another analogy to this can be a teacher/professor having sex with an 18-year-old current student of his or hers. In such a scenario, the relationship and sex would likewise be consensual, but there would still be a power imbalance between the parties.

In such a scenario, do you think that the teacher/professor involved should at the very least resign/be fired from his or her job?
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NoTrump
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 11:40:12 PM »

Should FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson have resigned over their extramarital affairs?
Did any of them have extramarital affairs with their employees? If so, probably Yes--other than for FDR, since defeating the Nazis was the utmost priority back then.
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