Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[Higgins]

Pop Pop’s fundraising was terrible and he is awful on the stump. He is not going to go the distance.

Let that hatred for the old white man simmer. Imagine if he becomes President? Hoo boy. The tears streamin down your ilk's faces will be delicious. Like wine.

[Higgins]

Biden would be 78 Years old at Inauguration Day 2021. Do you really want that?

As long as he's the last old person for a while, why not?

[Higgins]

I for one agree with Joe Biden. Joe Biden is despicable.

Ahh yes, because he used the term "lynching" 20 years ago. Warren pretended to be Native American and Bernie has made many off color remarks as well. I guess they too are despicable.

No, man, they good. He’s a white man. He needs to bend the knee for his sin of whiteness

[Higgins]

Joe Biden has a clear message for Putin:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1186989582182694922

Your right, American voters do decide the election. And guess what? I've decided that I wont vote for you!

Peace comrade peace. You’ll get your time for apartheid and reparations eventually! Comrade peace!

[Higgins]

Biden says he won’t legalize Marijuana and claims that it is a gateway drug.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470861-biden-says-he-wont-legalize-marijuana-because-it-may-be-a-gateway-drug

Yeah...I'm officially done with Biden. I'd vote for him if he became the nominee. But let me tell you, I would not at all excited to vote for a soon to be 79 year old (by inauguration day 2021) who should have run in 2016 and continues to have policies straight out of the 1980s (standing by his past record of being against busing to desegregate schools, being against Marijuana legalization, I'm sure there are others I can't think of currently).

Misleading headline.  Here is the actual quote.

“The truth of the matter is, there’s not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug,” Biden said, according to Business Insider. “It’s a debate, and I want a lot more before I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it.”

Biden, as he has throughout his time on the campaign trail, said he supports medical marijuana and insisted possession of the substance "should not be a crime."

But he also said Saturday that he thinks the decision to legalize marijuana should be left up to individual states.

“States should be able to make a judgment to legalize marijuana,” he said at the town hall.

As for legalization on a federal level, Biden said more research is needed.

"It is not irrational to do more scientific investigation to determine, which we have not done significantly enough, whether or not there are any things that relate to whether it's a gateway drug or not," Biden said.

So in summary:

Biden supports decriminalization of marijuana
Biden supports allowing states to legalize marijuana
Biden wants more research done on marijuana impact before legalizing it at the federal level, which would force all states to legalize it.

Basically his position is "you can legalize it if you want, but I don't know enough yet to FORCE you to."

Much more nuanced than "lol weed bad"

Just like Goldwater's civil rights position!  State's Rights errybody!

You’re gonna equate the right to be a pothead burnout to having equality, having the right to vote and being treated as a human being? Classy.

[Higgins]

The fact of the matter is that legalizing a narcotic, unless you’re going to heavily regulate it, is not a good idea. And Pot is in essence a behavior and mind altering narcotic. Wanna make medical marijuana legal? Go ahead. As long as it’s not abused or prescribed lightly.

We don’t need to be a nation of potheads. I say that as a Millenial in 2019 who has tried Pot a few times. We have enough issues with having an over medicated society as is. Why add to it? Because Millenials need their 420 brah?

[Higgins]

The fact of the matter is that legalizing a narcotic, unless you’re going to heavily regulate it, is not a good idea. And Pot is in essence a behavior and mind altering narcotic. Wanna make medical marijuana legal? Go ahead. As long as it’s not abused or prescribed lightly.

We don’t need to be a nation of potheads. I say that as a Millenial in 2019 who has tried Pot a few times. We have enough issues with having an over medicated society as is. Why add to it? Because Millenials need their 420 brah?

And you obviously didn't grow up in any place where the substance was a black market of prohibition levels of crazy either. Somewhere where  a non-insignificant number of stoners actually voted to keep it illegal to avoid regulation

Biden says he won’t legalize Marijuana and claims that it is a gateway drug.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470861-biden-says-he-wont-legalize-marijuana-because-it-may-be-a-gateway-drug

Yeah...I'm officially done with Biden. I'd vote for him if he became the nominee. But let me tell you, I would not at all excited to vote for a soon to be 79 year old (by inauguration day 2021) who should have run in 2016 and continues to have policies straight out of the 1980s (standing by his past record of being against busing to desegregate schools, being against Marijuana legalization, I'm sure there are others I can't think of currently).

Misleading headline.  Here is the actual quote.

“The truth of the matter is, there’s not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug,” Biden said, according to Business Insider. “It’s a debate, and I want a lot more before I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it.”

Biden, as he has throughout his time on the campaign trail, said he supports medical marijuana and insisted possession of the substance "should not be a crime."

But he also said Saturday that he thinks the decision to legalize marijuana should be left up to individual states.

“States should be able to make a judgment to legalize marijuana,” he said at the town hall.

As for legalization on a federal level, Biden said more research is needed.

"It is not irrational to do more scientific investigation to determine, which we have not done significantly enough, whether or not there are any things that relate to whether it's a gateway drug or not," Biden said.

So in summary:

Biden supports decriminalization of marijuana
Biden supports allowing states to legalize marijuana
Biden wants more research done on marijuana impact before legalizing it at the federal level, which would force all states to legalize it.

Basically his position is "you can legalize it if you want, but I don't know enough yet to FORCE you to."

Much more nuanced than "lol weed bad"

Just like Goldwater's civil rights position!  State's Rights errybody!

You’re gonna equate the right to be a pothead burnout to having equality, having the right to vote and being treated as a human being? Classy.

Depending on how you view the War on Drugs in general, these things aren't exactly different at all, even mayhaps linked.

No, the right to get high isn’t linked to the right to vote, except I feel potheads shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

[Higgins]

HAPPY 77th BIRTHDAY to the next President of the United States!

A bizarre sentence. No 77-year old should be a serious presidential contender.

Except for Saint Bernard

I think Sanders is too old as well. Ideally no one past normal retirement age should be running for president. But there is a lack of credible left wing candidates between 35 and 65, which makes it a bit more reasonable for Sanders and Warren to run.

“Old candidates are okay when they align with my leftist ideology.”

As long as a candidate is mentally sound, and physically capable, I’d vote for one of any age. He’ll, I was just talking to my 90 year old grandpa the other day. Physically as fit as someone in their 60s, top, and mentally as sharp as a damn tack. Sharper than his children even. On par with me and I’m 29. With the wisdom of age to boot. I’d vote for him in a heartbeat. And he’s 90.

[Higgins]

Trump will badly damage Biden in the debates though.

1994 Crime Bill - Written by Biden, 1st Step act passed by Trump
Iraq War - Biden was the chief architect while Trump claims to oppose the war
NAFTA - Biden's support will damage him badly in the Mid-Western states.

Along with Biden's gaffes, he is the weakest candidate to go against Trump on a debate stage.

Trump's debate abilities are vastly overrated. He's talking nonsense with no substance because he doesn't know and doesn't care about most issues. Joe Biden is much better at debating Republicans than he's in a primary debate and he will moop the floor with Trump.

Trump has zero credibility to criticize Biden on any of these issues. This is a guy who has demeaned minorities and women, put children in cages and shown multiple bad judgment on foreign policy. He's been acting like a fool on the world stage with a naive view; he's cosying up to dictators and abandoning allies. Joe Biden can put up his record of accomplishments in the senate and as vice president any day of the weeks against a fraud like Trump. Let alone personal integrity. Give me a break.

Thing is that's kind of a strength of Trump. His talking nonsense. Joe Blow America is not as intelligent, or as well versed on the issues as your average Atlas user. Trump has perfected what my old man long ago termed the art of "baffling [people] with bulls*it." He talks a lot of nonsense that seems tough, makes for strong soundbites but ultimately doesn't really make much sense - but plays good to the entertainment media which has gradually dumbed down your average Americans' knowledge and attention span.

[Higgins]

The nominating process isnt over, Buttigieg is a rising star, we can criticize Biden as we like until June. Biden is critical of his opponents and he isnt the nominee. We will come together,  hopefully behind Buttigieg, in June

Nah, it'll be behind Biden, or I'll be voting Trump.