Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwELnifubOs

Live footage of McCarthy on the house floor

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Is he drunk?

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Democrats are going to lose 60 or 70 seats next year aren't they?
I don't know if this is worth it anymore...
We're passing great policy sure, but at what cost
And it will all get repealed on 1/21/2025 anyways
If Dems turn back maybe the house isn't lost...

tf? You think Manchin's committee chairmanship should be stripped because he's dragged his feet on this. Now you want to kill it.

McCarthy's speech is good. I don't know how dems are going to effectively counter this. This is going to be dastardly unpopular, isn't it? Honestly Manchin deserves some blame for that too, his dragging his feet has given the GOP more time to read this and come up with arguments against this.

I don't want to kill this, I don't even know if it's the best course of action. We are just between two bad futures here and I'm not even sure which is better anymore:

Do nothing for the sake of keeping control while this country's problems continue
Pass good but very unpopular policy at the cost of losing 60-70 seats, perhaps unlocking a 30 or 40 year GOP majority

Define “good”

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Ngl I’m actually kinda worried McCarthy’s speech could lead to a large victory for GOP in 2022, like this is Gettysburg tier [/s]

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God I’m sick and tired of all the winning

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This has not passed the senate, I don't know why everyone is celebrating. Not a sure thing.

Cope.

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God I’m sick and tired of all the winning

https://twitter.com/CBSNewsPoll/status/1462440567179255817?s=20

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Yt0xJKDY8

(I wrote that quote they are using)

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https://www.barrons.com/articles/joe-manchin-biden-build-back-better-bill-news-51638970164

Biden polls are about to take another hit with Child tax credit expired, if Manchin follows thru on his promise not to agree to the BBB plan by Xmas

Biden already gave up his hand by not giving another targeted stimulus check to those that need it, but he can I'll afford child tax credit, but who knows by Xmas of BBB passes


I DON'T CARE FOR This BBB, ITS NOT EVEN A STIMULUS CHECKS, AND HE, BIDEN SPENT ALL HIS Political CAPITAL ON IT

If you want Biden’s approval rating to go up, you better hope for BBB to pass.

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Imagine if Cal Cunningham could just keep his d*ck in his pants…..

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Are we that surprised that it might possibly fail ?

50 seats in the Senate my friends.

You can send ME voters a Thank You card.

And Cal Cunningham’s d*ck

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pppolitics, GMA, and ever other centrist who were attacking the progressives during the infrastructure bill holdup for being the supposed unreasonable ones can collectively pound sand right now 😡

Could you imagine where we would be right now if progressives continued acting like children? They deserve blame as they are the reason that BIF went on as long as it did, they where being unreasonable. it’s not hate it’s the truth. I blame sinemanchin for bbb not passing but progressives where unreasonable

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Hot take: had the squad shut up and helped pass BIF, BBB would be a thing. We need to watch out for them, they will go to any lengths to “hold Biden accountable” and put on a show.

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Durbin is back. Leahy is still out, but so are 3 Rs at this point. So Schumer has a 49-47 majority. Would even allow him to lose a vote, if Harris is on standby. I'll keep monitoring.

He should just hold the vote now in that case.

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Sanders has offered some criticism of the bill; cited CBO assessment that it wouldn’t do much to reduce inflation. ET is cross.

Many politicians, especially United States senators, get very frustrated when they aren’t the center of attention.

Especially Bernie Sanders

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Any idea when we can expect the full thing to pass?

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https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1240325221938315270?s=21&t=2cXax3agRFlZjwS9diJz_Q

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Hopefully AOC and Co. Don’t pull their usual shtick in the house.

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Hopefully AOC and Co. Don’t pull their usual shtick in the house.

Constant pressure from the left is the reason leadership actually managed to scrape a bill together. If there hadn't been progressives criticizing this administration for a lack of action the last several months, I have no reason to believe this would have ever been voted on.

Shh. You're making too much sense.

Funny how Liam was silent on Sinema, Gottheimer, and the bought-off members of the caucus actually endangering the bill but almost everything he's posted has been attacking the left.

I’ve attacked manchin and Sinema before? Or if I haven’t done it here I’ve done it on other platforms.

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I regret voting for Sanders in the 2016 primary.

Let me preface this by saying Sinema is much much worse.

Sinema is the worst member of the senate Democratic caucus, and not even close.

I’d say manchin is, but Sinema is up there

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Time for a change.

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What time is the vote?

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So does this open the act up to the possibility of getting struck down?

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There could be some complications regarding the fossil fuels permitting deal we made with Manchin to get him to support this bill:

Democrat calls for stand-alone vote on permitting deal, saying he doesn’t feel ‘obligation’ to vote for it

Excellent. Time to give Manchin a taste of his own medicine.

Manchin has warned there would be 'serious consequences' for this and at the very least it entirely rules out him supporting a deal like this again if Schumer can't keep his word. If Democrats are going to take that risk, the bill has to do more than just very minor harm.

What other deal is there for him to tank? I doubt Dems are planning to pass anything else with 50 votes this term, and it's doubtful they'll be able to pass anything on a partisan basis next term. It's obvious he has no leverage.

Now of course, if Manchin committed to supporting the rest of BBB, I think it'd be fair to give him this in exchange. But I don't see why he should get anything out of supporting a deal that's barely a quarter of the original compromise that was struck with him. This kind of disloyalty must not be rewarded.

Democrats could easily need his vote if they cling to the Senate while losing the House, for presidential nominations. Though it is getting harder for him to pull off a defection even if he wanted to, at the moment it is still sensible to try to keep him on board.

I don't think Manchin would take it out on Biden's nominations if progressive Dems torpedo his pet bill. If he does, then frankly he's an even bigger tool than we thought and we're better off just waiting and hoping we get 51 seats next time. Either way, his bad behavior cannot be rewarded or it will just encourage more.

Why progressives want to torpedo this bill is beyond me given that they where a big part of getting it passed, but hey gotta “hold Biden accountable” amirite?

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There could be some complications regarding the fossil fuels permitting deal we made with Manchin to get him to support this bill:

Democrat calls for stand-alone vote on permitting deal, saying he doesn’t feel ‘obligation’ to vote for it

Excellent. Time to give Manchin a taste of his own medicine.

Manchin has warned there would be 'serious consequences' for this and at the very least it entirely rules out him supporting a deal like this again if Schumer can't keep his word. If Democrats are going to take that risk, the bill has to do more than just very minor harm.

What other deal is there for him to tank? I doubt Dems are planning to pass anything else with 50 votes this term, and it's doubtful they'll be able to pass anything on a partisan basis next term. It's obvious he has no leverage.

Now of course, if Manchin committed to supporting the rest of BBB, I think it'd be fair to give him this in exchange. But I don't see why he should get anything out of supporting a deal that's barely a quarter of the original compromise that was struck with him. This kind of disloyalty must not be rewarded.

Democrats could easily need his vote if they cling to the Senate while losing the House, for presidential nominations. Though it is getting harder for him to pull off a defection even if he wanted to, at the moment it is still sensible to try to keep him on board.

I don't think Manchin would take it out on Biden's nominations if progressive Dems torpedo his pet bill. If he does, then frankly he's an even bigger tool than we thought and we're better off just waiting and hoping we get 51 seats next time. Either way, his bad behavior cannot be rewarded or it will just encourage more.

Why progressives want to torpedo this bill is beyond me given that they where a big part of getting it passed, but hey gotta “hold Biden accountable” amirite?

Torpedo which bill? The IRA has passed; it's done. What Grijalva might want to sink is a separate thing that Schumer promised Manchin during the negotiations.

Ahhh mk mk. My mistake, Ye I thought he wanted to torpedo the IRA