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« on: March 12, 2021, 07:01:57 PM »

What is the threshold needed for conviction? Is it unanimity? Simple majority? Something in between?
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2021, 08:28:28 AM »

One thing I will say is that 10-15 for Chauvin is probably more "punishing" than a normal person recieving this sentence as he has to spend it all in solitary in all likelyhood.

Aren't there prisons/prison modules for "low level/low security" offenders? The kinds that are fairly chill (by prison standards) and have people in jail for stuff like political corruption, low level drug dealing, and the kinds of people that are well on their track to reinsertation? (and where beating up Chauvin would set them back by an amount that they can't afford, so they'll restrict themselves).

Like I can think of a ton of other criminals who would be high profile and at similar risks, like say corrupt polticians, famous people and stuff.

To be honest a 10-15 year solitary punishment should qualify as "cruel and unusual punishment".
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2021, 12:22:27 PM »

One thing I will say is that 10-15 for Chauvin is probably more "punishing" than a normal person recieving this sentence as he has to spend it all in solitary in all likelyhood.

Aren't there prisons/prison modules for "low level/low security" offenders? The kinds that are fairly chill (by prison standards) and have people in jail for stuff like political corruption, low level drug dealing, and the kinds of people that are well on their track to reinsertation? (and where beating up Chauvin would set them back by an amount that they can't afford, so they'll restrict themselves).

Like I can think of a ton of other criminals who would be high profile and at similar risks, like say corrupt polticians, famous people and stuff.

To be honest a 10-15 year solitary punishment should qualify as "cruel and unusual punishment".

Any time you put a cop behind bars, they either need to be put in de facto solitary or a special cell bloc housing only other cops convicted of crimes.  In a high-profile, racially-charged case like this, putting Chauvin in general population would arguably be a de facto be a death sentence.

Yeah I know cops in prison need special protection (though not necessarily due to the racially-charged nature; aren't there literal neonazi gangs in prison? They neonazis will hace Chauvin too, though not because of his views on race obviously Tongue )

However solitary is way too much. Indeed my proposal was a special cell bloc of the lowest tier criminals (I guess if there is a "cops" bloc that works too of course).

But solitary confinement as the rule, for literally a decade is definitely cruel and unusual in my mind, no matter what. If Chauvin's circumstances don't allow for him to be placed under any sort of low security group (which I doubt; there are always a handful of prisoners who are on "good behaviour") I am almost tempted to say he should be commuted to 25 years of home arrest, or forced community labour or something; though more realistically he should be given other sorts of perks to counter being in de facto solitary (better amenities? Longer periods outside compared to regular prisoners?).
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