Will Generation Z be more conservative?

[Technocracy Timmy]

They'll almost surely be more conservative than millennials. Maybe more conservative than Xers. It's tough to say because they are an incredibly racially and ethnically diverse generation but the rise of the alt right and anti PC, anti SJW sentiments seems to have come in large part from today's teenagers.

I do think that they'll be a highly racially polarized generation. The white teens of this generation will probably be voting more conservative than white millennial and white Xers. The white kids of this generation could be the most republican voting bloc since white boomers or the white silent generation.

But they'll be a different kind of conservative. They'll be more secular, economically populist, and nationalist.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Yes, from my experiences at least in a liberal part of Massachusetts, most white teens my age and a little older are more conservative than the millennials, which most of us despise with a passion. They mostly have been shaped by their parents who were born in the mid-60's, the rise of memes, sadly, and hatred of the feminist and SJW movement. They aren't staunch conservatives and some are even 'liberal' republicans, socially progressive except abortion and economically conservative. Though staunch republicans are nationalistic and I'd even comprehend that a large portion >20% are white nationalists or some sort of racial purists.

Where I live I'd feel comfortable jacking that number up to 30-35% of white gen z youth.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Whites, DEFINITELY. Rural whites, 100%. Everybody else, probably not.

Pretty much what I think. It's not a coincidence  to see young white teens nowadays with this haircut:



Also people with large followings like PewDiePie don't just put Nazi and antisemetic undertones into their videos for no reason. He just happens to know his audience very, very well and is tapping into those sentiments for views.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Whites, DEFINITELY. Rural whites, 100%. Everybody else, probably not.

Pretty much what I think. It's not a coincidence  to see young white teens nowadays with this haircut:



Also people with large followings like PewDiePie don't just put Nazi and antisemetic undertones into their videos for no reason. He just happens to know his audience very, very well and is tapping into those sentiments for views.

Come on, dude. PewDiePie isn't exactly watched by 20%+ of their generation. Can we stop with the overgeneralizations?

This entire thread is filled with over generalizations. That's what happens when you start a thread asking whether or not a generation where the oldest members aren't even 18 yet will be more conservative or not.

Most of my experience with these kids online and in person points to a significantly more conservative group, especially among the white youth. But even some of the Hispanic and Asian kids seem to also have nationalist tendencies so yeah.

[Technocracy Timmy]

   If the goal were to appeal to the rising tide of National Socialism among Generation Z, mocking Nazis would be a lousy way to go about it. They're not the kind of folks who can handle being the butt of a joke.

I think the neo Nazi sites actually celebrated PewDiePie when they realized what he had been doing. To them they don't care if he's joking around or not, he's "redpilling future generations" in their eyes.

[Technocracy Timmy]

In the meantime, the youngest Millennial college freshmen continue to be quite liberal. From the American Freshman 2015:

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https://www.heri.ucla.edu/monographs/TheAmericanFreshman2015.pdf

The one thing that gives me hope for Generation Z is the fact that more will be going to college than millennials. Hopefully that'll straighten them up. Professors better be ready for racial realist questions during their lectures.

[Technocracy Timmy]

I'm confused, is this suggesting that Gen Z is more socially conservative?  I figured that Gen Z would be nationalistic but very socially liberal/irreligious.

There's some statistic that shows 44% of gen z attends church. I'm not sure if the number is that high though. Many are probably forced to go by their parents.

One thing I have noticed is that religiosity and politics is almost flipped with this generation. The conservatives are more culturally conservative/nationalist and secular whereas the liberals see Jesus as a socialist/liberal type figure and their faith reinforces their economic views. This isn't always the case, but it's more pronounced with these teens than older generations.

[Technocracy Timmy]

I'm confused, is this suggesting that Gen Z is more socially conservative?  I figured that Gen Z would be nationalistic but very socially liberal/irreligious.

There's some statistic that shows 44% of gen z attends church. I'm not sure if the number is that high though. Many are probably forced to go by their parents though.

One thing I have noticed is that religiosity and politics is almost flipped with this generation. The conservatives are more culturally conservative/nationalist and secular whereas the liberals see Jesus as a socialist/liberal type figure and their faith reinforces their economic views

Part of the reason for higher church attendance could be immigration.

True. A large number of gen z are Hispanic and they're probably very catholic.

Also conservative whites tend to be more religious and outbreed liberal whites so their gen z kids are also going to church.

[Technocracy Timmy]

I'm confused, is this suggesting that Gen Z is more socially conservative?  I figured that Gen Z would be nationalistic but very socially liberal/irreligious.

There's some statistic that shows 44% of gen z attends church. I'm not sure if the number is that high though. Many are probably forced to go by their parents though.

One thing I have noticed is that religiosity and politics is almost flipped with this generation. The conservatives are more culturally conservative/nationalist and secular whereas the liberals see Jesus as a socialist/liberal type figure and their faith reinforces their economic views

Part of the reason for higher church attendance could be immigration.

True. A large number of gen z are Hispanic and they're probably very catholic.

Also conservative whites tend to be more religious and outbreed liberal whites so their gen z kids are also going to church.

Or it could be that their parents are religious and make them go to church and they are not "very Catholic" themselves

I think this is quite likely. Although generally speaking the Hispanic kids of this generation seen to he more devout than the white kids. All of the Hitchens-atheist level youth I've met were all white.

[Technocracy Timmy]

This is why I predict that the types of atheists who go out of their way to argue with religious people will become Republicans.  Ten years ago their hatred was focused on rural conservatives.  Today their hatred is often focused on immigrants (especially Muslims).

This what I think will start happening over these next couple decades as well. A realignment that positions the democrats as the Party of working class whites and minorities would effectively position the GOP as being the more secular, nonreligious Party in order to appeal to fiscally centrist and socially liberal college educated whites, suburbanites and upscale minorities. The northern strategy as you called it.

Hell you even saw this with Christopher Hitchens. A self described Marxist and anti-theist who sided with the neoconservatives on the Iraq war because stopping the spread of what he called "islamofascism" was more important.

[Technocracy Timmy]

This is why I predict that the types of atheists who go out of their way to argue with religious people will become Republicans.  Ten years ago their hatred was focused on rural conservatives.  Today their hatred is often focused on immigrants (especially Muslims).

This what I think will start happening over these next couple decades as well. A realignment that positions the democrats as the Party of working class whites and minorities would effectively position the GOP as being the more secular, nonreligious Party in order to appeal to fiscally centrist and socially liberal college educated whites, suburbanites and upscale minorities. The northern strategy as you called it.

Hell you even saw this with Christopher Hitchens. A self described Marxist and anti-theist who sided with the neoconservatives on the Iraq war because stopping the spread of what he called "islamofascism" was more important.

Um, with all due respect, have you ever spent considerable time in a WWC area? The people in those kinds of communities are almost exactly how Bannon's Brigade described the irreligious social conservatives. The kinds that only go to church when it's convenient (Ash Wednesday, Christmas, and Easter). This is true across the Midwest, and the Northeast. College-educated people tend to have higher rates of church attendance by far. Paradoxically, they're also more secular than WWC's as a whole, but I would also say somewhat more religious and spiritual than the WWC. It's just that the college educated people who go to church tend to not be the "once-a-year" types.

WWC people are more socially conservative than college educated whites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/religion-and-education-explain-the-white-vote/amp/

[Technocracy Timmy]

This is why I predict that the types of atheists who go out of their way to argue with religious people will become Republicans.  Ten years ago their hatred was focused on rural conservatives.  Today their hatred is often focused on immigrants (especially Muslims).

This what I think will start happening over these next couple decades as well. A realignment that positions the democrats as the Party of working class whites and minorities would effectively position the GOP as being the more secular, nonreligious Party in order to appeal to fiscally centrist and socially liberal college educated whites, suburbanites and upscale minorities. The northern strategy as you called it.

Hell you even saw this with Christopher Hitchens. A self described Marxist and anti-theist who sided with the neoconservatives on the Iraq war because stopping the spread of what he called "islamofascism" was more important.

Um, with all due respect, have you ever spent considerable time in a WWC area? The people in those kinds of communities are almost exactly how Bannon's Brigade described the irreligious social conservatives. The kinds that only go to church when it's convenient (Ash Wednesday, Christmas, and Easter). This is true across the Midwest, and the Northeast. College-educated people tend to have higher rates of church attendance by far. Paradoxically, they're also more secular than WWC's as a whole, but I would also say somewhat more religious and spiritual than the WWC. It's just that the college educated people who go to church tend to not be the "once-a-year" types.

WWC people are more socially conservative than college educated whites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/religion-and-education-explain-the-white-vote/amp/

In New England at least, Catholics who attend weekly mass are usually more liberal, unless you attend a Traditional High or Low Mass. Many Catholics who attend are usually college educated women who are widowed or 40-65 years old. Many of these people are pious but they are often like Pope Francis, many are liberal Republicans who hate Trump's views on immigration and his comments on groping. At least from my experience, Catholics who are WWC and attend mass not as often as their college educated counterparts, tend to be more Trumpian and socially conservative. A good example of this is a kid in my Boy Scout troop, whose family owns an auto body shop. They are Catholic WWCs' who attend mass sometimes, but they also are the largest Trump supporters I know.

This might be why a lot of the younger online conservatives I've come across are much more secular and non religious. If anything it's the liberals of generation z that strike me as being more pious. Although you still encounter the typical liberal atheist or Christian conservative with these kids, but they're much more nuanced compared to older Americans.