opebo Week: A Celebration of His Life & Times

[memphis]

I hope no one other than Einzige has missed the point of this thread - jmfcst wanted to brag.  And now he has, and we have listened.

Good for you, jmfcst, for the high income.  Kudos, enjoy it.. or at any rate what ever passes for 'enjoy' in your case.  You are very right to value your social position and its material reward, and to remind others of their inferior position.  This is good old fashioned simian behavior, and nothing the rest of us have any basis to question. 

I present my submission to you in (symbolic) kind:

[memphis]

While Joe Republic is an exception to this, it's hilarious to see most of the Obepo haters attack his simple, if wrongheaded, defenses of child abuse, while they simultaneously literally worship at the alter of organizations that have systematically enganged in and covered up such behavior since time immemorial. Perhaps if we can simply buy Obepo a cassock, he will not only be reinstated but also have statues of him built so that future generations may know him also.

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Another thing I miss about opebo is the What have you eaten for dinner thread, which immediately self-destructed after our friend's untimely assassination. I loved reading about the food in Thailand. Here's a typical post of his in that thread.

I had a nice stir fry of pork liver and ginger, with a bit of onion and red hot chili peppers, served on a plate of rice..  also shared a large 'tom yum' - spicy - slightly sour - creamy soup with small pieces of squid, shrimp, and chicken, as well as mushrooms (and various herbs and flavor-imparting roots which are not really meant to be eaten).  My Thai professor friend had a fried rice with pork and broccoli, and I treated - total cost for the two of us with Coke to drink, 135 baht, about $4.50.

[memphis]

Another thing I miss about opebo is the What have you eaten for dinner thread, which immediately self-destructed after our friend's untimely assassination. I loved reading about the food in Thailand. Here's a typical post of his in that thread.

I had a nice stir fry of pork liver and ginger, with a bit of onion and red hot chili peppers, served on a plate of rice..  also shared a large 'tom yum' - spicy - slightly sour - creamy soup with small pieces of squid, shrimp, and chicken, as well as mushrooms (and various herbs and flavor-imparting roots which are not really meant to be eaten).  My Thai professor friend had a fried rice with pork and broccoli, and I treated - total cost for the two of us with Coke to drink, 135 baht, about $4.50.

Would you mind answering the question I posed earlier?

I prefer not to name names because this thread is about opebo, and not about his individual and collective detractors, but I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised to see one member of the type I described more or less admit the contradiction and concede that a Great Purge is in order. You'd have to be a complete fool not to be able to connect the dots between those who worship and those who attack opebo's memory. I'm hesistent to put words in another person's mouth, but perhaps their objection is that they feel that child abuse ought to be the exclusive domain of clergymen, as some sort of official sacrament or veneration.

[memphis]

Another thing I miss about opebo is the What have you eaten for dinner thread, which immediately self-destructed after our friend's untimely assassination. I loved reading about the food in Thailand. Here's a typical post of his in that thread.

I had a nice stir fry of pork liver and ginger, with a bit of onion and red hot chili peppers, served on a plate of rice..  also shared a large 'tom yum' - spicy - slightly sour - creamy soup with small pieces of squid, shrimp, and chicken, as well as mushrooms (and various herbs and flavor-imparting roots which are not really meant to be eaten).  My Thai professor friend had a fried rice with pork and broccoli, and I treated - total cost for the two of us with Coke to drink, 135 baht, about $4.50.

Would you mind answering the question I posed earlier?

I prefer not to name names because this thread is about opebo, and not about his individual and collective detractors, but I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised to see one member of the type I described more or less admit the contradiction and concede that a Great Purge is in order. You'd have to be a complete fool not to be able to connect the dots between those who worship and those who attack opebo's memory. I'm hesistent to put words in another person's mouth, but perhaps their objection is that they feel that child abuse ought to be the exclusive domain of clergymen, as some sort of official sacrament or veneration.

Do you read the nonsense you write or do you just spew it?

So you're in the camp with Nathan that religious people are simply too simpleminded to be logically consistent? I was merely giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not, but they merely view child abuse as a Religious Privilege. I suppose you two could just as easily be correct. Perhaps even a bit of each for certain folks.

[memphis]

So you're in the camp with Nathan that religious people are simply too simpleminded to be logically consistent? I was merely giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not, but they merely view child abuse as a Religious Privilege. I suppose you two could just as easily be correct. Perhaps even a bit of each for certain folks.

When on earth did Nathan say that "religious people are simply too simpleminded to be logically consistent", I ask? It would be insulting himself so I'm legitimately curious.

Never mind the fact the Pope- the Pope himself- has essentially called for the Church to clean up its act and for the Curia to be overhauled, and here you are still insisting that practicing (or not practicing, as most of the people you are accusing do) Catholicism is somehow intrinsically the same thing as calling a pedophile "one of our brothers" and a "victim".

You, once again, have managed to derail a thread so that you can spew invective at the "religious dumbs" and prove to all your inherent superiority over them. Congratulations.

My position in this thread was that religious people mentally brush off the issue of sex abuse as if it were a small, trifling matter, while, at the same time, condemning in the harshest terms, a man who has merely expressed sympathy for the abuser. I maintain that this is a matter of Religious Privilege (only the clergy get the slap on the wrist, or as you put it a "call to clean up their act").  It was indeed Nathan who insisted that the issue was that.

"The clergy needs to be purged. The fact that the largest Christian denomination, for one, has yet to properly embark upon this mission is a disgrace. Many people happen not to have switches in their heads regulating their beliefs that they can simply turn on and off in response to that fact."

If you have an issue with that statement, you must go its author, who is not me.

[memphis]

My understanding is that there have been numerous child abuse scandals in secular institutions as well.

I'm sure this is true. When you have a large organizations, with authority figures and figures, these things do happen unfortunately. However, the Catholic Church is in a unique position because there were so many cases all over the world. It was, indeed, a part of their culture. Getting to molest children became a de facto fringe benefit to being a priest. And, of course, the reaction of superiors was to repeatedly cover up the uniquitous incidents and to  move offenders around so that they may repeat their crimes in a new place. I don't condone sex abuse, but what the Catholic Church did, and for all we know may continue to do in places, far far worse than anything Opebo did. To merely shrug shoulders and call for the Church to do better in the future while condemning opebo in the strongest possible terms is an exercise in cognitive dissonance that I cannot even begin to understand.

[memphis]

To be fair, Madeleine is far from the only sex-negative feminist prude on the Atlas. He is merely the intellectual ringleader. There are quite a few other prominent members of the Brood. But anyhow, I didn't mean to draw attention away from our honoree. Here's a good nugget of wisdom that is quite apt for this thread and a good life lesson as well

As I get older, I find friendship (dubious though it can be) is usually based more on style of humor than opinion.

[memphis]

To be fair, Madeleine is far from the only sex-negative feminist prude on the Atlas. He is merely the intellectual ringleader.

Using my preferred name but not my preferred pronoun is an interesting choice. I take it this is the go-to option for the classy and discerning bigot these days?

Must everything be about you? If you would like a Celebrate Madeline week thread, start one. As it happens, name changes are a real thing, and I respect that. If you want me to go back to calling you Nathan, I will.

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To be fair, Madeleine is far from the only sex-negative feminist prude on the Atlas. He is merely the intellectual ringleader.

Using my preferred name but not my preferred pronoun is an interesting choice. I take it this is the go-to option for the classy and discerning bigot these days?

Must everything be about you? If you would like a Celebrate Madeline week thread, start one. As it happens, name changes are a real thing, and I respect that. If you want me to go back to calling you Nathan, I will.

I have no idea how to respond to this. Missing the point of what I said so spectacularly has got to be deliberate. In any case, Cory made this about me first so take your trolling up with him.

You didn't say anything other than making your typical ad hominem attack against me. OMGZ U R a meen Bigut!1111 But again, this thread isn't about you and your attention whoring. We've been down that road far too many time. This is my last reply to you and your ilk in this thread.

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Where's the underage putang in Gully's stalking of opebo again?

Of course raping girls is totally OK if they are 20.

What rape?

Accusing someone of such a thing using what Gully posted, should be a cause to be banned.

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Both bringing such an explicit narrative into the Atlas (a place where it had not previously been), and also accusing even a former member of something as serious as rape, should be bannable offenses. I'm not often part of the Ban Brigade, but these are egregious actions.

[memphis]

Ah yes, "progressives" once again pushing the mysoginistic and anti-worker position that the state should be able to tell women who they can and cannot have sex with.

Not so much with whom (pedo laws notwithstanding) but under what terms. For the sex negative types, women desperately need the government's consent. The government knows better than you do if you really want to have sex. That the negs call sex workers "third world whores" tells you all you need to know about their attitudes and values.

[memphis]

Ah yes, "progressives" once again pushing the mysoginistic and anti-worker position that the state should be able to tell women who they can and cannot have sex with.

Not so much with whom (pedo laws notwithstanding) but under what terms. For the sex negative types, women desperately need the government's consent. The government knows better than you do if you really want to have sex. That the negs call sex workers "third world whores" tells you all you need to know about their attitudes and values.

It's less that there's any relevant state interest in preventing sex from being sold (the morality of doing so aside--'it's immoral' isn't really sufficient reason to ban something) and more that there are any number of reasons to be skeptical of allowing it to be bought. Also, the word that Gustaf used was 'prostitute', not the best word in the world but one which neither insults nor euphemizes. (There are grounds on which to criticize the term 'Third World' but that's a separate issue.) You're the one who brought the word 'whore' into this conversation. The fact that you've done this tells us all we need to know about your integrity and sincerity.

Let's look at the transcript

It's hilarious how convinced you all are that third world prostitutes are totally consensual happy whores

[memphis]

Ah yes, "progressives" once again pushing the mysoginistic and anti-worker position that the state should be able to tell women who they can and cannot have sex with.

Not so much with whom (pedo laws notwithstanding) but under what terms. For the sex negative types, women desperately need the government's consent. The government knows better than you do if you really want to have sex. That the negs call sex workers "third world whores" tells you all you need to know about their attitudes and values.

It's less that there's any relevant state interest in preventing sex from being sold (the morality of doing so aside--'it's immoral' isn't really sufficient reason to ban something) and more that there are any number of reasons to be skeptical of allowing it to be bought. Also, the word that Gustaf used was 'prostitute', not the best word in the world but one which neither insults nor euphemizes. (There are grounds on which to criticize the term 'Third World' but that's a separate issue.) You're the one who brought the word 'whore' into this conversation. The fact that you've done this tells us all we need to know about your integrity and sincerity.

Let's look at the transcript

It's hilarious how convinced you all are that third world prostitutes are totally consensual happy whores

You're aware that 'happy whore' is a set phrase, right?

Here comes the walk back. Oh goody....