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Question: About where will we be by December 2025?  Pick one option from the first 12, then one of the final two.
#1
Russia will eventually break Ukraine and capture Kiev by conventional means
 
#2
Russia will break through Ukrainian defenses and capture more territory, such as Odessa, by conventional means, before declaring victory
 
#3
Russia will use WMDs to destroy the Ukrainian army and achieve its goals
 
#4
Ukraine will sue for peace and voluntarily surrender some or all of the captured territory
 
#5
Western nations will force Ukraine to surrender some or all of the captured territory to end the war
 
#6
The war will never end and turns into a decades-long WW1-style trench warfare at the current lines
 
#7
Ukraine will succeed in pushing Russia out of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, but surrender Luhansk/Donetsk/Crimea for peace
 
#8
Western nations will force Ukraine to agree to peace before it recaptures Luhansk/Donetsk
 
#9
Ukraine will recapture Luhansk/Donetsk but abandon Crimea for peace
 
#10
Western nations will force Ukraine to abandon Crimea after it retakes Luhansk/Donetsk
 
#11
Ukraine will recapture Crimea, liberating all of its former territories
 
#12
Ukraine will liberate all of its former territories, liberate Transnistria, and invade along the Black Sea coast to liberate Georgia
 
#13
BONUS Q:  Putin still rules Russia in Dec. 2025
 
#14
BONUS Q:  Putin is no longer ruler of Russia in Dec. 2025
 
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Author Topic: 9/15/2023 check-in: How do you think the Ukrainian invasion ends up?  (Read 1402 times)
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« on: September 18, 2023, 02:21:48 PM »

It’s really hard for some as Matt is such a master at baiting people. A masterbaiter one might even say
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2023, 10:05:34 PM »

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.
Detached from reality like this?
Even I know there will be no invasion tonight
No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  


There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.
The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2023, 10:40:23 PM »

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.
Detached from reality like this?
Even I know there will be no invasion tonight
No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  


There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.
The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.

Sir, stop making a fool of yourself. As it says there, the invasion did not start that day. And the second thing is still true lmao, Ukraine has no chance, its only way out is to accept Russian demands.

You said on the 16th “there will be no invasion” but nice try 👍. Also trying to argue Ukraine has no chance after this past year of embarrassing an degrading your precious orc military to the point you’re begging NK for aid and your most effective fighting unit straight up mutinied on you makes it pretty clear who the fool is.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2023, 10:47:48 PM »

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.
Detached from reality like this?
Even I know there will be no invasion tonight
No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  


There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.
The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.

Sir, stop making a fool of yourself. As it says there, the invasion did not start that day. And the second thing is still true lmao, Ukraine has no chance, its only way out is to accept Russian demands.

You said on the 16th “there will be no invasion” but nice try 👍. Also trying to argue Ukraine has no chance after this past year of embarrassing an degrading your precious orc military to the point you’re begging NK for aid and your most effective fighting unit straight up mutinied on you makes it pretty clear who the fool is.

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However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

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pretty clear who the fool is.

Yes, I think it's clear
I get you’re a Z troll so bad faith comes to you naturally but we can all literally see the quote with the sentence you cut out of your highlight in which you openly state that there will be no invasion.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2023, 10:57:51 PM »

Again you’re the one saying an invasion won’t happen calling it a “nothingburger” and saying “there will be no invasion” for everyone to see. Also you only made the original to troll andjey so you can save the whining as no one wants to hear it
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