Trump Has COVID megathread (update 10/24: 2 Pence staffers test positive)

[Calthrina950]

Also, so many states have those stupid "electors HAVE TO VOTE for the ticket the voters voted for" laws now that a bunch of GOP states will be handcuffed into voting for Trump/Pence while other ones would be voting for Pence/??? (Haley, let's be real), and there'd end up no electoral majority.

That would create a situation somewhat similar to 1872, when Horace Greeley's death after the election, but before the Electoral College met, resulted in his electors scattering their votes among several different candidates. Obviously, as you just noted, it wouldn't be so fractured this time, but so long as Biden wins the Electoral College, it will not matter.

[Calthrina950]

I'm not that worried of Trump unknowingly getting COVID & unknowingly spreading it to Biden. Unless we hear about a big outbreak regarding workers at the debate, I don't think there was much opportunity for Biden to contract it

Biden has been taking the virus seriously (unlike Trump), and has consistently worn a mask at all of his public appearances. And his campaign, of course, has been refraining from door-to-door canvassing and traditional rallies-another contrast to Trump. Given this, and given that they kept their distance on the debate stage (in adherence to the Commission's protocols), I'm hopeful that Biden avoided it. And this whole situation is ironic, given that Trump mocked Biden at the debate for wearing a mask. And yet now, Trump could have gotten a disease which might very well kill him, while Biden remains in the clear. It would be a truly hellish year if both major-party candidates contracted the virus, especially given their ages.

[Calthrina950]

Quite an October surprise and on day 1.

Isn't this so? 2020 has been a volatile year.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1311892190680014849?s=21

Now this is the October surprise.

[Calthrina950]

There is a historical irony that I've noticed with this. Woodrow Wilson contracted the Spanish Flu a hundred years ago, and now Donald Trump has contracted coronavirus. History does repeat itself in strange ways.

[Calthrina950]

My hunch is that tonight, Joe Biden won the Presidency of the United States. In my view, this is going to hurt Trump, not help him. He and his family are now paying the consequences for not taking this virus seriously. I wish them a full and speedy recovery, but they should not have been so reckless, and this could have serious consequences for our country, were Trump to die or be incapacitated from this nefarious virus.

[Calthrina950]

Amy Coney Barrett met with Trump yesterday. There's a decent chance that she also contracted COVID-19. Republicans might not be able to ram her in before the election. She now has to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she has it or not.

And Barrett met with several Republican Senators, so all of them might have contracted the virus as well, to say nothing of their colleagues on the other side of the aisle, staffers, etc. We could be seeing a wave of diagnoses among prominent political figures in upcoming days and weeks.

[Calthrina950]

Amy Coney Barrett met with Trump yesterday. There's a decent chance that she also contracted COVID-19. Republicans might not be able to ram her in before the election. She now has to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she has it or not.

And Barrett met with several Republican Senators, so all of them might have contracted the virus as well, to say nothing of their colleagues on the other side of the aisle, staffers, etc. We could be seeing a wave of diagnoses among prominent political figures in upcoming days and weeks.

And adding to this, the announcement ceremony for Barrett's nomination at the White House was criticized by some in the media for the lack of masks worn by those in attendance-and that ceremony was a week ago, which would be well within the framework for one to become symptomatic from the virus. Given that it's been speculated that the Trumps and Hicks may have gotten the virus from the same event, it could have been that event. Moreover, I didn't see Barrett or the Senators she met wearing masks in their meetings-at least, not what the media showed of them.

[Calthrina950]

Weirdest f-ing year I’ve lived. I was born in 1987 and turn 33 in 2 weeks.

I thought at the time that 9/11 would be the worst even of my life. 2020 has proved that wrong.

Definitely the worst year of mine.  I’m not much older than you at 37.

My emotions have ranged all over the place.  It’s very easy to get depressed with this stuff around, and especially having so many people not taking it seriously.

l'm 22 (so a decade or more younger than the two of you), but this has been the most volatile year of my life yet, in terms of what has happened in the world (although 2009, the year of my mother's death, still beats this as the worst year of my life personally). If 2020 is any indication as to what the remainder of the 21st century will look like, then we are in for decades of turmoil.

[Calthrina950]

I'm glad to hear that the Bidens, Barrett, and Trump's children did not contract the virus-although I see that Sen. Lee of Utah has. Let's see what happens as this continues to progress.

[Calthrina950]

Amy Coney Barrett met with Trump yesterday. There's a decent chance that she also contracted COVID-19. Republicans might not be able to ram her in before the election. She now has to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she has it or not.

And Barrett met with several Republican Senators, so all of them might have contracted the virus as well, to say nothing of their colleagues on the other side of the aisle, staffers, etc. We could be seeing a wave of diagnoses among prominent political figures in upcoming days and weeks.

And adding to this, the announcement ceremony for Barrett's nomination at the White House was criticized by some in the media for the lack of masks worn by those in attendance-and that ceremony was a week ago, which would be well within the framework for one to become symptomatic from the virus. Given that it's been speculated that the Trumps and Hicks may have gotten the virus from the same event, it could have been that event. Moreover, I didn't see Barrett or the Senators she met wearing masks in their meetings-at least, not what the media showed of them.

Given what we've learned today-that Sen. Lee, the Trumps, Hope Hicks, and the President of Notre Dame were all at the announcement event, it seems likely-in fact almost certain-that this event was the source of the coronavirus outbreak, just as I suspected. Barrett herself apparently contracted coronavirus earlier this year and recovered from it, so she may have some immunity to it-thus explaining why she didn't contract it now.

[Calthrina950]

will this finally get some people to wear a damn mask?

Judging from what I saw at my job today, unfortunately not. Some people are just that stubborn.

[Calthrina950]

Not related to Trump. But...


https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1312183526201069568

So in just one day, we've had two more Senators (Lee and Tillis), that have been diagnosed with the virus. I predicted earlier that we could be seeing a wave of such diagnoses among prominent political figures. And it seems like I've been proven correct.

Not related to Trump. But...


https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1312183526201069568

Why only 10 days instead of 15? Because McConnell cares more about getting judges confirmed than not killing a building full of geriatrics including himself?

Mitch McConnell is a despicable human being. He won't change his behaviors unless (and I hate saying this), he himself were to be infected by, and become seriously ill with, this virus.

[Calthrina950]

Kellyanne has it:

https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960

This year has been surreal.

Those early reports, from back in February and March, that the virus could potentially infect up to 70% of the American population seem to be bearing themselves out. It seems like half of Washington D.C. has contracted coronavirus at this point.

[Calthrina950]

Kellyanne has it:

https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960

This year has been surreal.

Those early reports, from back in February and March, that the virus could potentially infect up to 70% of the American population seem to be bearing themselves out. It seems like half of Washington D.C. has contracted coronavirus at this point.

The stubborn refusal of the White House and Congress to move to a work-from-home model is a reminder of how much of politics is based on physical proximity to power and influence.

Instead, a bunch of 70 year olds who probably shouldn't even be going to the grocery store are puttering around cramped 19th century buildings, shaking hands, eating together, talking in meetings where they're sitting right next to each other.

I'd certainly agree with you. McConnell, in particular, refused to consider changes to Senate procedures that would enable them to work from home, although he has permitted for several "safety protocols" to be put in place (i.e. mask-wearing, socially distanced hearings, etc.) It will be horrible if a member of Congress were to die from this virus, but given their ages and health, it's a real possibility at this point.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1312215808257388545?s=20

Just to get an idea of who else might be exposed.

In addition to Lee, Tillis, Melania Trump, and Conway, I can also see Blackburn, Sasse, Hawley, and Barr in that group. Sasse was wearing a mask-but Blackburn and Hawley were not (and neither was Barr). All three Senators need to get themselves tested immediately, if they haven't already done so (Barr was tested already and came back negative, I believe). And Tillis was also wearing a mask-which may explain why he's asymptomatic. That is, he may have received less of a viral load than others who were infected-such as Lee and Conway, both of whom are experiencing mild symptoms.

[Calthrina950]

Is that John Roberts at the Rose Garden event?

https://twitter.com/ResistTrump17/status/1312246527960776706?s=20

I pray to God that Roberts didn't contract it-although that is a likelihood at this point. That would be a disaster if the Chief Justice of the United States also caught it-and especially at this juncture.

[Calthrina950]

Is that John Roberts at the Rose Garden event?

https://twitter.com/ResistTrump17/status/1312246527960776706?s=20

Might be John Boozman.  They have a similar look from the side.

That's interesting to know. If so, that would mean another U.S. Senator could potentially be at risk from it.

[Calthrina950]

Is that John Roberts at the Rose Garden event?

https://twitter.com/ResistTrump17/status/1312246527960776706?s=20

I pray to God that Roberts didn't contract it-although that is a likelihood at this point. That would be a disaster if the Chief Justice of the United States also caught it-and especially at this juncture.

This isn't John Roberts.

I've acknowledged that here:

Is that John Roberts at the Rose Garden event?

https://twitter.com/ResistTrump17/status/1312246527960776706?s=20

Might be John Boozman.  They have a similar look from the side.

That's interesting to know. If so, that would mean another U.S. Senator could potentially be at risk from it.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/GovChristie/status/1312416381758050305

Now we have confirmation of that dubious tweet from last night. And I predicted this:

LMAO, they really didn't give a flying f *ck


https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1312064332306542592?s=20

You can see Chris Christie in that clip-and Christie is of course an ABC political contributor, and was on ABC's debate panel Tuesday night. One wonders if he might have contracted it and passed it to the ABC journalists. We shall see..

[Calthrina950]

At this point I'm waiting for the Trumpists to rip their masks off and start running around actively trying to get COVID so they can be just like Dear Leader.

Trump's recent actions in response to his diagnosis frustrate me to no end. If he recovers from this-as he seems to be on track to-and gets back on the trail, claiming that it's "no big deal", then his supporters will be further encouraged in their behavior.

[Calthrina950]

EDIT: I just looked it up and Wilson had his stroke exactly 101 years ago yesterday. [Twilight Zone Theme]

History has repeated itself again! I recall seeing this image of Woodrow and Edith Wilson before; it was taken in June 1920, if I'm recalling correctly, or a hundred years ago! Earlier, I remarked on how Wilson had contracted the Spanish Flu, just like how Trump has now contracted coronavirus.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312763676726886401

I said the other night that it appears that Trump's condition is improving, but as you've noted, his case could regress at any time. That we have this level of uncertainty ought to be concerning by itself.

[Calthrina950]

Trump could eat a kid on live TV and his cultist supporters will still love him.

In the eyes of his supporters, Trump is the best President this country has had in decades. Many of them sincerely believe this. And there are some posters on this forum-people who voted for Obama and or/Clinton-who are on the Trump Train and have embraced him. I'm pretty certain anyone here knows which two posters I am talking about. I'm saying this as someone who detests Hillary Clinton and did not vote for her, but who can't stand Trump either.

[Calthrina950]

Those upset are those rooting for his demise.

To many if not most of us it was another signal of strength and that he's fighting back.  If masks work, why is anyone upset about him being masked up inside the SUV with others also in masks?   Can't have it both ways.

You clown! No one ever said the mask protects you 100%, it helps mitigate the spread. The best thing to do is social distance with a mask, but we know that's not feasible in every situation. I swear. Ugh, I'm ready to vote already.

I was told the protestors/rioters didn't spread COVID at all because they had a mask on.

The protestors were outdoors. Trump and the Secret Service were in a car that is actually hermetically sealed against chemical attacks, meaning that Trump's infectious particles literally have nowhere to go except spread within the car. Try again.

Tom Tillis was outdoors with a mask on and still caught it.

Masks aren't entirely effective, but perhaps it's notable that Tillis is asymptomatic-according to the media reports I've seen. It has been demonstrated that they can reduce the amount of viral load someone takes in, thus lessening the severity of the symptoms that they may experience. So even in such instances, masks can prove the difference between a quick recovery and a lengthy hospitalization, or even death.