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Question: How has CARLHAYDEN affected your opinion of amnesty for illegal immigrants?
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Author Topic: How has CARLHAYDEN affected your opinion of amnesty for illegal immigrants?  (Read 4147 times)
Bacon King
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« on: February 12, 2007, 04:16:35 AM »

FAR more in favor. I used to not care. Now I strongly support full and unconditional amnesty for all illegals.

I suppose murderers, rapists, and thieves should be pardoned of their crimes as well?

Murderers, rapists and thieves have crimes that actually hurt people. The only thing 'illegal' immigrants are guilty of is a law that shouldn't be there in the first place.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 11:57:06 AM »

The only thing 'illegal' immigrants are guilty of is a law that shouldn't be there in the first place.

Our country, or any country for that matter shouldn't have border controls to protect the national interests?

My apologies, I should have made my statement clearer. Border controls are necessary, yes, but I do not believe that any honest, hardworking person should be denied the right to live in our nation if they so desire.

FAR more in favor. I used to not care. Now I strongly support full and unconditional amnesty for all illegals.

I suppose murderers, rapists, and thieves should be pardoned of their crimes as well?

Murderers, rapists and thieves have crimes that actually hurt people. The only thing 'illegal' immigrants are guilty of is a law that shouldn't be there in the first place.

Ah, why don't you try that line on:

Adrienne Shelly
Kris Eggle
David Nadel
Tanee Natividad
Helen Chaska
David March
Bret Clodfelter

I don't recognize any of those names, but I'm guessing they are people who have been killed/assaulted/etc by people who were here illegally?

It is a sad fact, but crime exists. I don't think immigrants are any more predisposed to comitting murder than any other group- there are always a few bad apples.
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Bacon King
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E: -7.63, S: -9.49

« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 04:07:52 PM »

FAR more in favor. I used to not care. Now I strongly support full and unconditional amnesty for all illegals.

I suppose murderers, rapists, and thieves should be pardoned of their crimes as well?

Murderers, rapists and thieves have crimes that actually hurt people. The only thing 'illegal' immigrants are guilty of is a law that shouldn't be there in the first place.

Regardless, we live in a 'law and order' society (supposedly) and because we have immigration laws, they need enforcing.  No they don't directly hurt people in the same way, but they do deplete state resources that could be given to citizens.

Ignoring BRTD's pedantry here, I'd like to put in my two cents.

Rather than following the law for the sake of following the law, a more pragmatic approach is needed. The immigration process should be simplified to get rid of the excessive bureaucracy that make people jump the border in the first place.

Anyone who isn't a convicted felon should be allowed to immigrate to the United States if they want to. I mean, really- what reason is there to not allow them in?
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