MAGA-teens harass Native American

[Jeffster]

Tell me again how Gillete's ad is the problem.

https://www.gq.com/story/maga-hat-indigenous-peoples-march

Multiple videos have surfaced since Friday showing a group of teenage boys crowded around attendants of the Indigenous Peoples March. In the footage of the encounter, many of the boys are wearing Make America Great Again hats, and can be seen laughing at and imitating a Native drummer. One boy even stands directly in front of the drummer, as close as he can get, staring the man down for several minutes.

The boys are reportedly from the all-boys Covington Catholic High School in Ohio, though according to the Cincinnati Enquirer there's no confirmation for that yet (the Enquirer did report that the school's website announced students would be traveling to D.C. for the March for Life). According to Indian Country Today, the man in the video is Omaha elder and Vietnam vet Nathan Phillips. The Indigenous Peoples March is neither a partisan nor explicitly anti-Trump event.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k

I knew one of you idiots would pick up this fake news story. The natives approached the group of kids, banging their drums and chanting. The kid pictured smiling, not doing anything else, he's just standing there and smiling, is now being doxxed and harassed by idiots like you on twitter. The native man walked up to the kid banging his drum and chanting, the kid did not walk up to the man. So what did the kid do wrong, and why should his life be ruined all because morons like you have an agenda?
https://twitter.com/mariajudy_/status/1086681831804674048

[Jeffster]

Hello! Are you people illiterate, or being willfully ignorant? The kid in the picture smiling did not approach the man, he did not do anything but stand there as the man with the drum approached him, got in his face, banging and chanting, yet you want to ruin his life. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Here, look here, it clearly shows the drummer approaching the group of kids:
https://twitter.com/mariajudy_/status/1086681831804674048

Look at the video again at this timestamp, the kid is just standing there, and the drummer got in his face. What was the kid supposed to do here that would have satisfied your insane minds, run away or bow down?
https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=43

[Jeffster]

I think there is a massive lack of understanding of Native Americans and Native American cultures... ignorance even.

I think some of those boys were purposely mocking the man drumming while many others legitimately thought it was just having fun and dancing and clapping a bit.

And then there is a psychopath kid in the MAGA hat standing there trying to intimidate him.  He ought to be expelled.  Any other overt actors should receive a suspension, and all of them, along with the rest of the students and staff at the school should have some Native American cultural education.

The sad truth is that racist people are particularly nasty towards Native Americans because they don't fight back.  Just look at the comments in the Youtube video.  They're much worse even than what those kids did.

You are so completely out of touch with reality and what actually happened here, but that's typical from your usual posts on here.

[Jeffster]

Apparently when a person approaches you, and gets right up in your face banging a drum and chanting, if you don't move but instead stand your ground, you are the one intimidating the drummer/chanter. I'll bet if this was reversed, you'd be saying how heroic the native man is for standing his ground and how evil and intimidating the MAGA drummer was for getting in his face.

[Jeffster]

For your information, Jeffster is a Sanders supporter who thinks DREAMers are a scourge on American society and should be deported ASAP.

And you are the one that has bought into this fake news story, and so far none of you have countered the evidence I have shown in this thread, yet. What are you waiting for? If the truth is on your side then show us. Show us it was the kids that approached the natives and got in their faces first. Show us that the kid whose photo you are spreading all over the net, and who your side is doxxing and harassing, is the one who approached the native man and got in his face first. Go ahead show us your evidence.

[Jeffster]

Apparently when a person approaches you, and gets right up in your face banging a drum and chanting, if you don't move but instead stand your ground, you are the one intimidating the drummer/chanter. I'll bet if this was reversed, you'd be saying how heroic the native man is for standing his ground and how evil and intimidating the MAGA drummer was for getting in his face.

Congrats on being the first person I’ve ever blocked on this site.

You are pathetic then. Nothing I have posted in this thread is untrue, or worthy of a block. You just don't like it when the narrative you so happily buy into every day turns out to be false.

[Jeffster]

I knew one of you idiots would pick up this fake news story. The natives approached the group of kids, banging their drums and chanting. The kid pictured smiling, not doing anything else, he's just standing there and smiling, is now being doxxed and harassed by idiots like you on twitter. The native man walked up to the kid banging his drum and chanting, the kid did not walk up to the man. So what did the kid do wrong, and why should his life be ruined all because morons like you have an agenda?
https://twitter.com/mariajudy_/status/1086681831804674048

So maybe the Native Americans approached the kids.
So what? What's the big deal about that?
I doesn't mean the Deplorables should get 2-feet in their face (personal space), and taunt/mock their dance like immature morons.
And I'm glad the stupid kid is taking flak for what he did. He acted all macho there with all that racist MAGA crowd around him, feeding on the bigoted hate in that mob. But now he cowers like the wuss he really is.

If you walk up to me, and get right in my face banging a drum and chanting (invade my personal space), how is it my responsibility to stay more than 2 feet away from you? What kind of twisted logic is that? You are just coming up with any excuse to hate on these kids and ruin their life, because you are a gullible coward that believes the crap peddled by the leftist fake news.

[Jeffster]

There's so little actual racism in America now that the powers that be had to redefine "standing there and taking it while a POC berates you" as a form of racism.

Wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat in front of a Native American says everything they wanted to say to him and more. Stop feigning ignorance.

He wasn't berating anyone. Unless you think the audacity of a nonwhite person to be where they want to be in public is some form of aggression.

If I walk up to you and start banging a drum and chanting right in your face, about a foot away from your face, you're telling me you wouldn't see it as aggressive? And all the kid did was stand there and smile at him, that's it. Yet the left online are doxxing this kid (although they got the wrong person at first as usual), and I've seen threats of violence aimed at him all over twitter and reddit. You guys have gone insane over this, and it's all based on biased reporting of the incident that leaves out some key details.

[Jeffster]

There's so little actual racism in America now that the powers that be had to redefine "standing there and taking it while a POC berates you" as a form of racism.

Wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat in front of a Native American says everything they wanted to say to him and more. Stop feigning ignorance.

He wasn't berating anyone. Unless you think the audacity of a nonwhite person to be where they want to be in public is some form of aggression.

If I walk up to you and start banging a drum and chanting right in your face, about a foot away from your face, you're telling me you wouldn't see it as aggressive? And all the kid did was stand there and smile at him, that's it. Yet the left online are doxxing this kid (although they got the wrong person at first as usual), and I've seen threats of violence aimed at him all over twitter and reddit. You guys have gone insane over this, and it's all based on biased reporting of the incident that leaves out some key details.

You in the 1960s: OMG ALL THE KIDS ARE DOING IS STANDING THERE WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I can't believe you actually posted that image and are trying to make that comparison. You're off your rocker. In the Jim Crow photo, those white people had to come in and surround the black man after he sat down, so they approached the black man first and began menacing him. In the video evidence I've provided in the very thread which you are apparently too lazy to watch, it was the Native American man who approached the group of kids first, and in the other video he decided to bang his drum in their faces.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera begins to turn there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Maybe you should alert the Archdiocese of Covington so they can retract the condemnation of their students behavior.
Or maybe you'll eventually realize how foolish your attempt to defend a bunch of racist brats is and stop wasting bandwidth with your posts.

I'm not a Catholic so I don't give a crap what the Archdiocese of whatever thinks. They are probably just falling for the typical leftist media mob that has decided to attack an innocent kid because he stood there and smiled as a man walked up to him and him banged a drum in his face. There is no evidence these kids are racist. You are pathetic and can't think for yourself. Keep following the hive mind and repeating the narrative loser.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

[Jeffster]

I'm not a Catholic so I don't give a crap what the Archdiocese of whatever thinks. They are probably just falling for the typical leftist media mob that has decided to attack an innocent kid because he stood there and smiled as a man walked up to him and him banged a drum in his face. There is no evidence these kids are racist. You are pathetic and can't think for yourself. Keep following the hive mind and repeating the narrative loser.

Reminder: this guy says that he is a Sanders supporter.
I think we can safely say now that he is a troll who tries to provoke flame wars and it's time for the mods to take the proper actions.

Where did I say I was a Sanders supporter? I preferred him over Hillary, but I don't agree with him on everything. And he seems to have been cowed by the left over things like immigration.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

I explained what I was looking for.  What's your excuse for lying about all your claims?

Go to every timestamp that I wrote above and you tell us who was moving and in what direction at those timestamps then. You said I lied in all my clams then you can go through and disprove them.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

I explained what I was looking for.  What's your excuse for lying about all your claims?

Go to every timestamp that I wrote above and you tell us who was moving and in what direction at those timestamps then. You said I lied in all my clams then you can go through and disprove them.

I already have: the kid comes from nowhere.  Phillips would have had to have moved several feet forward to have stood in front of him.  He only moves from side to side and not forward, but he certainly does not move several feet forward.

The kid was the one who was making a show of standing there with the moronic smirk on his face.  Putting two and two together it's clear he moved to be in front of Phillips so that he could do that.

If you want to argue this, please explain where the kid comes from.

You never addressed the Native American man in the black coat behind Phillips, he looks down at the ground and steps forward following behind Phillips. If Phillips was only moving side to side, then there would have been no place for that man in the black coat to step forward.

You can see the smiling kid at around 9-10 seconds and at 25-26 seconds and at 32-33 seconds as the camera keep turning side to side. He was only a few feet away from the camera at that point. He didn't come from out of nowhere. You keep lying.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

I explained what I was looking for.  What's your excuse for lying about all your claims?

Go to every timestamp that I wrote above and you tell us who was moving and in what direction at those timestamps then. You said I lied in all my clams then you can go through and disprove them.

I already have: the kid comes from nowhere.  Phillips would have had to have moved several feet forward to have stood in front of him.  He only moves from side to side and not forward, but he certainly does not move several feet forward.

The kid was the one who was making a show of standing there with the moronic smirk on his face.  Putting two and two together it's clear he moved to be in front of Phillips so that he could do that.

If you want to argue this, please explain where the kid comes from.

You never addressed the Native American man in the black coat behind Phillips, he looks down at the ground and steps forward following behind Phillips. If Phillips was only moving side to side, then there would have been no place for that man in the black coat to step forward.

You can see the smiling kid at around 9-10 seconds and at 25-26 seconds and at 32-33 seconds as the camera keep turning side to side. He was only a few feet away from the camera at that point. He didn't come from out of nowhere. You keep lying.

If I step to one side, amazingly that allows the person behind me to step forward.

If one person is moving side to side and another steps into their space when they are on the left then wouldn't they be in the way when that person steps sideways back to the right? So how did Phillips end up in front of the man in the black coat?

And you can see the kid is in the same spot for all three timestamps I listed, so he didn't come out of nowhere.

Why are you being such a troll on this and constantly lying?

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

I explained what I was looking for.  What's your excuse for lying about all your claims?

Go to every timestamp that I wrote above and you tell us who was moving and in what direction at those timestamps then. You said I lied in all my clams then you can go through and disprove them.

I already have: the kid comes from nowhere.  Phillips would have had to have moved several feet forward to have stood in front of him.  He only moves from side to side and not forward, but he certainly does not move several feet forward.

The kid was the one who was making a show of standing there with the moronic smirk on his face.  Putting two and two together it's clear he moved to be in front of Phillips so that he could do that.

If you want to argue this, please explain where the kid comes from.

You never addressed the Native American man in the black coat behind Phillips, he looks down at the ground and steps forward following behind Phillips. If Phillips was only moving side to side, then there would have been no place for that man in the black coat to step forward.

You can see the smiling kid at around 9-10 seconds and at 25-26 seconds and at 32-33 seconds as the camera keep turning side to side. He was only a few feet away from the camera at that point. He didn't come from out of nowhere. You keep lying.

If I step to one side, amazingly that allows the person behind me to step forward.

If one person is moving side to side and another steps into their space when they are on the left then wouldn't they be in the way when that person steps sideways back to the right? So how did Phillips end up in front of the man in the black coat?

And you can see the kid is in the same spot for all three timestamps I listed, so he didn't come out of nowhere.

Why are you being such a troll on this and constantly lying?

I meant he is moving to one side.  As the camera pans away at the 51 second mark, the kid is several feet away, when it comes back at the 56 second mark, the kid is standing right in front of him.  None of the other times are important, it's that point where the kid is standing in front, and the kid clearly moved forward, and not Mr Phillips.

I'm not sure why the times in the video changed.

Here is the link stamped at 51 seconds. https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=51

By that point the kid and Phillips were already facing each other and in their final positions, it's the camera that is being moved as the camera person turns it to get them in frame and then raises the camera up and forward to get a closer view. I don't know what video you are watching but what you described did not happen between 51-56 seconds.

[Jeffster]

So I guess Indy Texas thinks banging a drum a foot away from a persons head is the same as wanting to sit down at a lunch counter and get food. That's basically what you get if you follow the logic of their comparison. Seriously, some of you guys are going nuts online about this issue, doxxing and threatening violence against a kid, all based on a biased reporting of the incident.

I don't know if anybody here is reading Jeffster or not, but from the video he himself provided, his description is not accurate.  At around the 30 second mark in the video, Nathan Phillips stops moving, and that kid is several feet away. When the  video cuts back to Nathan Phillips at around 35 seconds, the kid is pretty much in his face.  Jeffster is wrong about who moved up to who.

Towards the end, Nathan Phillips steps back and the kid moves forward to stay in Phillips' face.

Watch again. At around 31 seconds as the camera turns there is a row of kids in front of the smiling kid, but when the camera turns and comes back at about 39-40 seconds they are gone and you can clearly see Phillips stepping forward. Then at 45-46 seconds Phillips takes another step toward the kid. Then around 50-51 seconds you can see Phillips raise his drum up to the kids face. So you are either blind or a liar. Phillips did not remain stationary, he was moving.

https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=30

Completely false.  Phillips moves from side to side, not forward.  He also does not raise his drum to the kids face, he raises it, but moves it closer to his own face.  You are a liar.

Oh now he only moved side to side, but in your last post you said he was stationary. And while standing close to the kid he raises his drum, but he doesn't move it closer to the kids face, even though you can see the final placement of the drum is closer to the kids face than before he raised it. Come on stop lying. The camera person along with Phillips and his entourage were all moving forward as some of the kids were leaving the front of the crowd. The smiling kid was in the same spot and Phillips and his group moved toward him.

I was looking for forward motion, not side to side.  

You keep lying. AT 45-47 seconds you can clearly see Phillips stepping toward the kid as his left shoulder moves away from the camera increasing the distance between himself and the camera as he moves toward the kid. Then the camera person moves forward closing the distance in order to get close enough to video the two of them. He was clearly moving forward toward the smiling kid.

He moves from side to side, the kid comes from nowhere.

Phillips, his entourage, and the camera person were all moving forward. Look at 38 seconds. You can see the other Native American man in the black coat holding up a camera behind Phillips looks down at the ground to see where he's going as he steps forward. Then that same man in the black coat leans forward to video the smiling kid, but Phillips steps in front of him to get closer to the kid.

You are lying.

You just keep denying the facts shown in the video, and have already been found lying with your initial claim Phillips wasn't moving after the 30 second mark. Why should we believe anything you say?

I explained what I was looking for.  What's your excuse for lying about all your claims?

Go to every timestamp that I wrote above and you tell us who was moving and in what direction at those timestamps then. You said I lied in all my clams then you can go through and disprove them.

I already have: the kid comes from nowhere.  Phillips would have had to have moved several feet forward to have stood in front of him.  He only moves from side to side and not forward, but he certainly does not move several feet forward.

The kid was the one who was making a show of standing there with the moronic smirk on his face.  Putting two and two together it's clear he moved to be in front of Phillips so that he could do that.

If you want to argue this, please explain where the kid comes from.

You never addressed the Native American man in the black coat behind Phillips, he looks down at the ground and steps forward following behind Phillips. If Phillips was only moving side to side, then there would have been no place for that man in the black coat to step forward.

You can see the smiling kid at around 9-10 seconds and at 25-26 seconds and at 32-33 seconds as the camera keep turning side to side. He was only a few feet away from the camera at that point. He didn't come from out of nowhere. You keep lying.

If I step to one side, amazingly that allows the person behind me to step forward.

If one person is moving side to side and another steps into their space when they are on the left then wouldn't they be in the way when that person steps sideways back to the right? So how did Phillips end up in front of the man in the black coat?

And you can see the kid is in the same spot for all three timestamps I listed, so he didn't come out of nowhere.

Why are you being such a troll on this and constantly lying?

I meant he is moving to one side.  As the camera pans away at the 51 second mark, the kid is several feet away, when it comes back at the 56 second mark, the kid is standing right in front of him.  None of the other times are important, it's that point where the kid is standing in front, and the kid clearly moved forward, and not Mr Phillips.

I'm not sure why the times in the video changed.

Here is the link stamped at 51 seconds. https://youtu.be/sIG5ZB0fw1k?t=51

By that point the kid and Phillips were already facing each other and in their final positions, it's the camera that is being moved as the camera person turns it to get them in frame and then raises the camera up and forward to get a closer view. I don't know what video you are watching but what you described did not happen between 51-56 seconds.

I'm not sure what's going on with the time stamps, the time keeps changing on me.  I think this has been gone over enough, people can see for themselves that I'm correct on this.

Bullcrap. You keep lying, and nothing you described in that previous post was correct. I've given you two links, with the last one timestamped to the period you incorrectly described. Anyone that opens my links and looks at the times I listed will see what I'm describing and see you are a liar.

[Jeffster]

https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34?t=4322
Here is a new video showing Phillips walking into the crowd of students. Some are claiming he wanted to get to the Memorial, but the kids were blocking his path, but when you watch the video you can see unobstructed paths up the stairs to the Monument to the right of the students group. He chose to walk into the crowd banging his drum. It also should be noted that this video is a copy of a livestream by a handful of black protesters who were hurling the N-word and homophobic comments at the students.

[Jeffster]

The thread title is a lie.  The Native American walked into the crowd of Trump supporters, and beat his drum in the face of teenager.  If anything, the teenager was being harassed/provoked by the Native American adult.

As the Native American is drumming the "AIM song", the teens actually appear to be joining.  I guess that might be a form of mocking, but that's a pretty weak claims.  The Native American then walks over to another teenager, and beats his drum 8-12 inches from the teenagers face.  The teenager smirks.  Boo hoo.

This is just another fabricated outrage story from left-wing media outlets.  At best, it was exaggerated. 

Yes, the kids were just joining in and there was no mockery involved whatsoever. Right up there with their immediately chanting thereafter build the wall.

Tell me, does racism truly require that much mental gymnastics? Truly interested.

Can you provide a link to the kids chanting "build the wall" to Mr. Phillips and his group, I haven't found it anywhere yet.

[Jeffster]

Reason posted an article sort of defending the teens here. It is Reason, so it's a source that leans to the (Libertarian) right, but I found it interesting if only to demonstrate the sort of take I'm seeing on right wing media.

https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video#comment

The section that stuck out to me, and I'm curious what everyone else thinks of it:

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This Phillips guy is turning out to be a complete liar. He claimed the students chanted "build the wall" to him and his group. So far no evidence of that despite now having a nearly 2 hr livestream recording of everything before, during, and after he got there. Still waiting for the proof Badger. He has a history of going to the media with charges of racism. He claimed he wanted to get to the memorial but the kids were blocking his way, but the longer video shows plenty of space to the right of the students to walk up the steps, but he passes that and goes straight to the students.