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« on: November 07, 2020, 08:50:26 PM »

So bad news...there may be a mutation that is resistant to previous Covid antibodies, or at least somewhat stronger against them...

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-11-07/covid-outbreak-in-mink-that-was-dismissed-now-has-world-worried

Yep.  I read a few studies that questioned the validity of inoculating minks, because there were constant mutations of inactive Covid particle or proteins that resided in the IG tract.  Same was found in feline cats.  They saw two completely new species of Coronavirus that had popped up when investigating the 2011 outbreak among Mink populations in Minnesota and Wisconsin.  The mutations were also significantly more fatal, and were able to cross between species.   

In our globalist world where people and animals are constantly moving across the world, we have expanded the reservoir for coronavirus, and naturally, it evolved faster than we can react.  Countries have banned flights from Denmark.  Too late.  Migrant farmers, livestock, and many workers, having to travel for work, already spread it.  As we've seen Europe now, you can't beat this thing with lockdowns and scapegoating right wingers.  You're only beating yourself.  The lockdowns can't be prolonged for many weeks or months cause economical attrition will eventually break your society.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2020, 09:05:01 PM »


Every state in the Mountain west and Midwest is experiencing overwhelming Covid patient in emergency rooms as winter cold and dry air continues is march South and East.  The top three states in the nation are Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin.  It's going to come for people in the Pacific states in about a week or two.  Don't worry.  Everyone will get a turn.  Not even Germany could stop it from blowing up. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2021, 03:41:22 AM »

The conclusion is based on statistical data that doesn't match up with the conclusions made by studies examining case information with problematic data from January to February.  For example, one study showing vaccine effectiveness was conducted only on hospital workers that were previously infected by Covid-19, but those results were biased cause one can not tell if the vaccine was effective due to the patient likely gaining natural immunity (13 times more effective).  

Another issue with the earlier data is that vaccinated patients were tested using PCRs at a CT of 28 while 40 was used for the unvaccinated.  A CT of 40 results in a patient being 32 times more likely to test positive for Covid-19.  file:///Users/newguest/Downloads/cdc_105217_DS1.pdf

Also, in later statistical protocol, a patient would not be counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen.  So someone with one dose or a second dose less than 14 days from a shot were not represented in statistics.  They would be recorded as unvaccinated.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigations-Protocol.pdf

The later statistical data from Israel and the UK in the months of April to June started accounting for these differences.  Remarkably, the studies showed that 30,305 patients died 21 days after receiving a vaccine, but those were not listed as Covid-19 deaths.  That panel pointed to those types of statistical anomalies as well as studies demonstrating side effects to determine that a third booster was not 'not safe' for people under the age of 65.  https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/15/30k-people-died-within-21-days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-england/

You really have to find that document with the questions and conclusions made by panelists.  They concluded that the data provided by those studies were not been properly reviewed by Federal agencies or peer-reviewed.  
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fda-panel-rejects-plan-to-administer-pfizers-covid-booster-doses-to-general-public/ar-AAOyT3N
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2021, 03:59:51 AM »

They said there are risks to distributing boosters too soon, including the potential for side effects such as a rare heart inflammation condition known as myocarditis, which is more common after the second dose of mRNA vaccines.

“If unnecessary boosting causes significant adverse reactions, there could be implications for vaccine acceptance that go beyond COVID-19 vaccines,” they wrote.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/13/covid-booster-shots-data-shows-third-shots-not-appropriate-at-this-time-scientists-conclude.html

BTW... This week, my mother and I are currently dealing with Covid-19.  She was very sick on Wednesday with a fever and vomiting, but I took a risk driving her up to get one of those shots.  She was better the next day despite being immunocompromised.  Saved her life.  My sister in-law also had the same results the next day.  I know dozens of people that recovered immediately after taking the shot.  People over 65 that were vaccinated and unvaccinated. 

Anyone that is against monocholoidal antibodies is a complete F-ing idiot.  The science demonstrates that it works.  I've seen it work.  Democrats need STFU about this treatment.  It is saving lives.  It is so effective that even crazy Vaxxer-Nazis are taking it.  50% of monocholoidal antibody patients are vaccinated, and that's almost as many people that are vaccinated in my state. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2021, 07:37:42 AM »

I was on a trip to Fernandina Beach, Fla., all week. People have pretty much forgotten about COVID.

An exception was a town on the way home that still has a mask mandate. Someone told me that the motel there was very militant about enforcing it, so I stayed clear of indoor common areas there instead of dealing with that nonsense like it's still March 2020. I also didn't walk around outdoors with a mask.

Yeah.  It's nice. I guess not at that particular establishment. You just be respectful of other people's medical decisions.  But like crazy mask people should be avoided.  I don't do business with them. Like I wear a mask, but not outdoors.  Some people don't wear one at all, and I've adjust to that reality by going through drive through or quickly pick up food instead of eating indoors. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2021, 09:23:58 AM »


Thirty years of right-wing talk radio, Fox News, and no Fairness Doctrine, I suspect.

Why did Democrats censor the dangerous side-effects of vaccines discussed by the Doctors during the FDA panel?  This woman's little sister didn't have to die. 
https://rumble.com/vmg44h-my-little-sister-just-died-from-her-first-dose.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2021, 03:49:43 AM »

People are all shocked cause Fauci is telling the vaccinated to wear a mask.  Yeah.  Cause it's become very obvious that the vaccinated are at much greater risk than initially alleged by Fauci and the many governmental and pharmaceutical actors pushing vaccinations down the throats of every American, and blaming the unvaccinated for all the setbacks that have occurred.  It's every evident that the medical and pharmaceutical community is lying about the number of vaccinated patients that are contracting, trasmiting, and dying from Covid-19, as well as suffering side effects from the injections that you can find videos of on Rumble.  Fauci told people that vaccinated people couldn't catch or spread the virus, which was obvious BS.  People vaccinated with the influenza shot spread it around every year.    You'd have to ignore 100 years of medical science to believe that a vaccine would stop the transmission of a virus that affects the upper and lower respiratory tract, in addition to organs like the kidneys, intestines and colon.  Fauci needs to F-ing go. It's bad enough we can't try that guy and others for crimes against humanity due to funding projects and conducting the experiments that engendered mutated coronaviruses in an unsafe setting. The whole lab-leak denial and cover-up was a F-ing serious violation of public trust.     

To prevent Covid, I wear a mask even though I'm a righty.  I was taught to do so as an EMT.  I believe it protects people from receiving higher loads of viral particles that directly enter nasal and oral pathways when an infected person breaths or talks in your direction.  It's tough for droplets and high loads of viral particles to travel below the small inflow of one's mask, because they usually drop to the ground due to their relative weight in the atmosphere, and the space between the mask and bottom of the chin makes it difficult for high viral loads from penetrating.  A strong ventilation system could pull and redirect coronavirus into the HVAC and above people in a closed space, but the top of the mask usually provides outflow that blows particles way.  Masks also prevent people from surface-to-hand-to-face transmission that quickly occurs when other people touch doors, tables, and chairs after rubbing their nose and mouth.  I might not wear a mask if I'm in a large space or sitting outdoors.  I think the reason people do not wear masks is due to government and democrat authoritative messaging that fails to provide the common sense reasons people should wear a mask. 

Also, if you want to keep people from overwhelming the hospitals, both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals with health issues like cancer and heart disease need to go for Monoclonal Anti-body therapy.  I think most people that got the treatment were vaccinated patients with serious issues.  The biggest benefit from such treatments is that it can work on multiple infections.  One of the issues doctors and hospitals found this summer was a resurgence of serious cold, RSV, and influenza infections that were attacking the upper respiratory system along with Covid-19.  Rhinovirus competes with, and mostly wins out against, Covid-19 in the upper respiratory tract, while covid-19 attacks the lower respiratory tract, as well as organs like the kidneys, lungs, intestines, and immune cells.  Coronavirus has been observed triggering severe infections of the common cold, COPD, and Asthma for over 40 years.  A study from march found that 15-30% of coronavirus infections triggered common colds while also infecting the lower respiratory tract, and consequently, other serious infections in the lungs like pneumonia.  I would argue that coronavirus is responsible for the significant increase in serious rhinovirus infections, and the study found that the worst cold, asthma COPD, etc. symptoms were among the old and immunocompromised patients. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7204879/

The monoclonal antibodies are great biologics that target specific illnesses, but have been repeatedly observed combating a host of other illnesses.  The FDA is constantly expanding treatment of antibody treatments.  Dupixent is an example of a monoclonal antibody that combats dermatitis, Rhinosinositus, upper respiratory infection and inflamation with nasal polyps, and Asthma.  I'm sure everyone has seen the pharmaceutical commercial with the guy taking his shirt off to jump in the pool and dancing with a floatation device. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2021, 04:25:54 AM »

I took it as more he's urging you to wear a mask (if you don't know if the people you're with are vaccinated).

Obviously if you don't want to wear a mask at Thanksgiving, and your host isn't telling you to wear a mask, then you don't have to.

Even if the people you're with are vaccinated, they can still spread Covid-19 to you and your family whether or not you wear a mask.  You're sitting down at the kitchen table where there is likely to be a vent pushing dry air across the room, and people touching the same dishes and utensils before shoving food into their mouth.  If you can't trust people to notify you of an ailment, then you should just stay home.  Everyone I know will stay home if they have a scratchy throat.  

Obviously I don't have to wear a mask if I don't want to wear a mask and the host isn't demanding everyone wear a mask.  That's going to be every host that's ballsy enough to throw a party, including Democrats who BS about following the guidelines.  

Fauci is F-ing idiot that people stopped listening to him when it was revealed in documents and e-mails that he took part in the covid mutation experiments in China, and tried to cover up the laboratory origins of the virus that was likely deleted from the Wuhan database.  The man is a monster.  
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2021, 04:57:23 AM »

People are all shocked cause Fauci is telling the vaccinated to wear a mask.  Yeah.  Cause it's become very obvious that the vaccinated are at much greater risk than initially alleged by Fauci and the many governmental and pharmaceutical actors pushing vaccinations down the throats of every American, and blaming the unvaccinated for all the setbacks that have occurred.  It's every evident that the medical and pharmaceutical community is lying about the number of vaccinated patients that are contracting, trasmiting, and dying from Covid-19, as well as suffering side effects from the injections that you can find videos of on Rumble.  Fauci told people that vaccinated people couldn't catch or spread the virus, which was obvious BS.  People vaccinated with the influenza shot spread it around every year.    You'd have to ignore 100 years of medical science to believe that a vaccine would stop the transmission of a virus that affects the upper and lower respiratory tract, in addition to organs like the kidneys, intestines and colon.  Fauci needs to F-ing go. It's bad enough we can't try that guy and others for crimes against humanity due to funding projects and conducting the experiments that engendered mutated coronaviruses in an unsafe setting. The whole lab-leak denial and cover-up was a F-ing serious violation of public trust.      

To prevent Covid, I wear a mask even though I'm a righty.  I was taught to do so as an EMT.  I believe it protects people from receiving higher loads of viral particles that directly enter nasal and oral pathways when an infected person breaths or talks in your direction.  It's tough for droplets and high loads of viral particles to travel below the small inflow of one's mask, because they usually drop to the ground due to their relative weight in the atmosphere, and the space between the mask and bottom of the chin makes it difficult for high viral loads from penetrating.  A strong ventilation system could pull and redirect coronavirus into the HVAC and above people in a closed space, but the top of the mask usually provides outflow that blows particles way.  Masks also prevent people from surface-to-hand-to-face transmission that quickly occurs when other people touch doors, tables, and chairs after rubbing their nose and mouth.  I might not wear a mask if I'm in a large space or sitting outdoors.  I think the reason people do not wear masks is due to government and democrat authoritative messaging that fails to provide the common sense reasons people should wear a mask.  

Also, if you want to keep people from overwhelming the hospitals, both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals with health issues like cancer and heart disease need to go for Monoclonal Anti-body therapy.  I think most people that got the treatment were vaccinated patients with serious issues.  The biggest benefit from such treatments is that it can work on multiple infections.  One of the issues doctors and hospitals found this summer was a resurgence of serious cold, RSV, and influenza infections that were attacking the upper respiratory system along with Covid-19.  Rhinovirus competes with, and mostly wins out against, Covid-19 in the upper respiratory tract, while covid-19 attacks the lower respiratory tract, as well as organs like the kidneys, lungs, intestines, and immune cells.  Coronavirus has been observed triggering severe infections of the common cold, COPD, and Asthma for over 40 years.  A study from march found that 15-30% of coronavirus infections triggered common colds while also infecting the lower respiratory tract, and consequently, other serious infections in the lungs like pneumonia.  I would argue that coronavirus is responsible for the significant increase in serious rhinovirus infections, and the study found that the worst cold, asthma COPD, etc. symptoms were among the old and immunocompromised patients. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7204879/

The monoclonal antibodies are great biologics that target specific illnesses, but have been repeatedly observed combating a host of other illnesses.  The FDA is constantly expanding treatment of antibody treatments.  Dupixent is an example of a monoclonal antibody that combats dermatitis, Rhinosinositus, upper respiratory infection and inflamation with nasal polyps, and Asthma.  I'm sure everyone has seen the pharmaceutical commercial with the guy taking his shirt off to jump in the pool and dancing with a floatation device.  

2016 should take some notes because if you are going to go after fauci this is how it's done

I may not agree with Hollywood but I at least respect the fact this is willing to take the time to actually explain why he feels do the way he does while also using solid data to back up his points

I think that is far better than just posting a complete lie about fauci and calling him a HOAX! Lol

Thanks.  I went back to read 2016's post.  I agree.  There's no need to make things up about Fauci, especially when the guy has such a bountiful history of terrible recommendations and dissemination of false information. 

The A-Hole said it couldn't be transmitted from human-to-human even though there were pictures of hundreds of body bags and thousands of cremation urns.  He told everyone to trust China while Social and Multi Media Democrats were censoring information from Chinese Scientists attempting to warn us about the virus. This is the reason censorship of information labelled 'misinformation' cause it comes from certain groups is completely evil.  So many people would have survived if the tech Democrats hadn't censored news for China and the Democrats.   
https://radio.foxnews.com/2020/03/27/cdc-director-reacts-to-resurfaced-tape-of-dr-anthony-fauci-downplaying-virus-threat/

Fauci has been lying about the origins of Covid-19 and the part he played in funding the mutative experiments dubbed gain-of-function research.  Had he been honest from the beginning, the United States could have prepared for the pandemic in a manner that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and reduced the duration of the lockdowns that have destroyed our economy.  Non-Mainstream Republican sites were disseminating the information back in December. 

Fauci is a guy that praised Cuomo's response to the pandemic last year even though his stupid nursing home policy killed tens of thousand in his own state, and more than 100,000 nursing home residents and staff in states that followed Cuomo's homicidal mandate.  It was so frustrating back in March, April and May of last year when I was pleading with arrogant Democrats that Cuomo's policy was killing patients.  And then Cuomo illegally falsified statistics in a way that Democrats that provided solid evidence that they wished they could have presented in their articles lying about DeSantis
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-falls-silent-following-new-york-nursing-home-scandal-after-repeatedly-praising-cuomo-response/ar-BB1e30t7

If Democrats are still defending Fauci at this juncture, then it's pretty obvious that they've completely lost the plot.  Almost 60% of people want Fauci gone.  I haven't seen poll questions about him ever since those numbers came out during the summer. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2021, 12:22:47 PM »

I took it as more he's urging you to wear a mask (if you don't know if the people you're with are vaccinated).

Obviously if you don't want to wear a mask at Thanksgiving, and your host isn't telling you to wear a mask, then you don't have to.

Even if the people you're with are vaccinated, they can still spread Covid-19 to you and your family whether or not you wear a mask.  You're sitting down at the kitchen table where there is likely to be a vent pushing dry air across the room, and people touching the same dishes and utensils before shoving food into their mouth.  If you can't trust people to notify you of an ailment, then you should just stay home.  Everyone I know will stay home if they have a scratchy throat.  

Obviously I don't have to wear a mask if I don't want to wear a mask and the host isn't demanding everyone wear a mask.  That's going to be every host that's ballsy enough to throw a party, including Democrats who BS about following the guidelines.  

Fauci is F-ing idiot that people stopped listening to him when it was revealed in documents and e-mails that he took part in the covid mutation experiments in China, and tried to cover up the laboratory origins of the virus that was likely deleted from the Wuhan database.  The man is a monster.  


I don't agree with any of this at all but I will say this statement does raise questions about Fauci Future

I think we can all agree that Fauci has Became a Political Lightning Rod for those on the right and that does make him a less effective messenger when it comes to being the face of the Biden pandemic response. At this point Fauci is simply too overexposed and much of what he says will simply be ignored by half the people in the county even if what he is saying is true.

Now I'm not naive about this I know that in these polarizing times any scientists who replaces Fauci will also be portrayed as the devil by at least some of the right, but the advantage of going with somebody new if that a it will be a fresh start for most Americans

Fauci remind people of the trump years and every time Americans think of him, they remember the many controversies that took place during the pandemic, including the never ending fight over the origins of the virus

Now, as said at the start of this I personally have nothing against Dr Fauci I just think in the end we may need someone new if we're going to actually help people in more conservative areas in the county


You seem pretty reasonable.  We have disagreements, but that's fine.  Let me just start by saying that almost every problem and crises that the Democrats have faced this year are ones I saw coming in the Spring: Afghanistan, Inflation, immigration, and Covid-19 resurgence.  I didn't know that Sinema and Manchen would block Biden's agenda, but I did predict the attacks on Trump being used as a constant crutch that would lull Democrats away from addressing voter issues.  And keeping Fauci around is just another symptom of the never-ending attempt by Democrats to contradict Trump even when he lands on the right side of a discussion. 

So, I think Trump has been completely vindicated on the origins of Covid-19.  That's why Jon Stewart and Bill are embarrassed for Democrats that think the Coronavirus wasn't a product of the "Wuhan Coronavirus Lab".  All the Democrats and Media Outlets that continue with this myth of it's origins being from the bat in the wet market is kind of silly because the closest relatives were found in bat stool in the caves of SE Asia (Cambodia, Laos).  The research studies indicate that those strains were mutated to give the Covid strains more infectious features that can transmit and replicate in human cells with efficiency.  

Then there's the videos of Fauci lying to Congress about Gain of Function Research.  Fauci's claims were completely discredited based on the Research Studies with funding from his department, and e-mails that were later released.  I still got those messages in a folder.  

Fauci needs to go away.  It has nothing to do with his disagreement of Trump.  The guy just isn't trustworthy or reliable as administrator, and he has been caught violating US policy prohibiting gain-of-function research that he secretly restarted.  This is the guy you want handling pandemics and dictating policies?  I talk to Democrat all around my neighborhood, and I can't find one that disagrees about Fauci.  You show them the e-mails (best evidence), and the conversation ends with "I didn't know that was reported" or "I never saw this in the news."  Did you ever wonder why so many people are dropping from CNN and MSNBC?  Fox News has 50% more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined, and doubles the viewers in the key demographics.  I'm also seeing the shift in viewpoints among those age groups in the polls, but that could just be incidental. Ds should start listening to Bill, because he's trying to help you.  
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2021, 03:40:05 PM »

I'm concerned at the moment. During the period from the 22-23, the cold dry period in the Great Lake to NE triggered a Covid outbreak in places like PA, NY, and MI. 

As a result, I would suggest social distancing tonight and tomorrow for people that live in the Midwest, Ohio Valley, and Northeast.  Keep your house a bit humidified if you are capable.  The timing of the seasonally favorable viral conditions in the temporal areas of the US coincides with a busy travel and shopping day that's likely to increase pathogenesis due to dry air hampering the noses and throats ability to trap viral particles with mucous.  A secondary shot of cold dry air will arrive from the the 28th to the 30th.

When I lived NE, I would turn up the hot shower for a bit until the mirrors were complete fogged.  I boiled tea to keep my mucous membranes moist. I also liked to crack my window during high humidity days even though it was a bit cold outside, because it seems to work.  Humidifiers are probably the best option. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2021, 04:30:43 PM »

Portugal re-instituting restrictive Covid-19 requirements as high vaccinations rates, because high vaccinations rates are not working.  Face Masks are required in indoor spaces, and the inoculated must present a negative Covid-19 test to enter facilities.  https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-25/portugal-returns-to-covid-restrictions-despite-high-jab-rate

Government wants people isolated if possible, citing seasonal virus conditions reduce the immune response.  Damn good theory if I say so myself.  

I've been interested in viral infections since I was a 16 year-old EMT, and I haven't caught many colds since that time.  I only get sick for a two or three days.  I've driven my family members to the antibody center three times without catching Covid-19 cause I know how to keep myself from infection.  Obviously, open the damn window for the passenger to breath out, and your own window for your own clean air.  Take a hot shower when you get home while inhaling and sipping boiled tea.  

If you live in the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, and Northeast, the seasonal conditions ripe for Covid-19 will arrive tomorrow, and a second wave will push through between the 28-30.  Stay Home, Stay Moist, Stay Safe.  If you feel a scratchy throat, start drinking hot tea in a hot bath.  Schedule a Covid-19 test.  If you have it, get the antibodies.  
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2021, 04:37:41 PM »

Good news: everyone is gonna get immunity by the Spring.
Bad news:


*Caveat first: data here is *very* preliminary, so everything could change.
Holy f**king s**t f**k this all! This is just going to get worse and worse until it becomes the Black Death level of catastrophe f**k the Malthusians were right we are all f**ked.

Oh my gosh it’s over this is the end of the era of progress we are entering a dark period for a few decades, gosh why couldn’t I have been born a few decades earlier.

No.  We're not.  There's a very good reason the vaccines aren't bullet proof against Covid-19 as opposed to influenza.  I've forgot that reason, because I'm not a genius.  But it's a good one.  

The best approach is biologics that help the host resist serious infection for five days while the body builds its own natural immunity.  It's a safer option than vaccines, because it protects people with lung and heart disease, as well as cancer and other conditions.  
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2021, 04:51:19 PM »

Good news: everyone is gonna get immunity by the Spring.
Bad news:


*Caveat first: data here is *very* preliminary, so everything could change.
Holy f**king s**t f**k this all! This is just going to get worse and worse until it becomes the Black Death level of catastrophe f**k the Malthusians were right we are all f**ked.

Oh my gosh it’s over this is the end of the era of progress we are entering a dark period for a few decades, gosh why couldn’t I have been born a few decades earlier.

No.  We're not.  There's a very good reason the vaccines aren't bullet proof against Covid-19 as opposed to influenza.  I've forgot that reason, because I'm not a genius.  But it's a good one.  

The best approach is biologics that help the host resist serious infection for five days while the body builds its own natural immunity.  It's a safer option than vaccines, because it protects people with lung and heart disease, as well as cancer and other conditions.  
There is one thing right in your post, go find it.

No time.  News coming in too fast. 

Riots in the Solomon Islands after lockdown.  Government Buildings are being set ablaze. 
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/soloman-islands-rise-up-government-buildings-set-on-fire/
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2021, 07:31:55 PM »

I said before and I will say it again this is the worst thing that could have ever happened to Humanity....



There is doubt in my mind that social media played a destructive role during this pandemic. Because of sites like Facebook being Anti-Vax and Anti-Mask became mainstream among politicians and certain celebrities. Even Red state governors nowadays seem to quickly jump on Twitter or Facebook in order to tell their voters that they are passing laws against vaccine mandates and requiring kids to wear masks

something like that would have never happened in the 90s and because of these social media websites disinformation about mask and vaccines spread faster among people than the delta virus ever did

I honestly believe that we would have never gotten rid of Polio had it showed during the Facebook era

You’re a silly goose.  I remember when Biden blamed his failure to reach vaccination goals on Facebook earlier this summer, because that’s been his game for the last year.  I have such a vivid memory of it.  

So Biden and other Democrats told people not to take the vaccination in November and December of last year cause it was acquired by Trump, and he’s not to be trusted in any regard.  Then Biden and the Democrats tried to take credit for his vaccine accomplishment.  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/31/cdcr-j31.html

Then you had the Biden Administration fabricate this nonsense about the vaccinated not being able to contract or spread Covid-19, but the unvaccinated people were capable of transferring it to vaccinated people, somehow.   Everyone knew he was lying, because there was data from overseas that was being suppressed by scientific journals and news outlets.  Suddenly, Fauci starts claiming that they just received this study demonstrating that vaccinated people can spread Covid-19.  
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/31/cdcr-j31.html

Also, the premise of your argument is such crap, because countries like Portugal have an 86% vaccination rate, and still can’t get handle on Covid-19.  I won’t believe it until the Administration provides total transparency to the public when it comes to the data collected by patients.  No time in the Trump Administration was it ever so bad that we weren’t getting such shoddy information.  The only party that hid Covid-19 cases and deaths was the Democrats in New York, so they could cover up the nursing home deaths.  Yet, Democrats still lie about DeSantis hiding data.  No.  Democrats have a track record of lying about vital data, so they need to bend over backwards to accommodate the suspicions of the American people.  
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cuomo-aides-overruled-health-officials-in-bid-to-hide-nursing-home-deaths-report/ar-BB1gaWrW

What about your misinformation?  Why is it your party was telling BLM guys that they could express their first amendment rights last year, but Jews expressing their rights in NYC needed to be rounded up?  Why is it okay that Democrats are allowed to violently riot and campaign, but Republicans aren’t allowed?  Why are the Trump supporters that go attend a rally super-spreaders, but violent protestors attempting an insurrection at the White House just a peaceful protestors?   It’s clear that the Democrat Party’s only move is lying when it’s convenient and blaming others when they don’t trust you for lying.  Democrats had a recovering economy, vaccine and numerous other treatments, and majority-proof Senate.  But Biden’s Administration could handle a single problem.  The guy finally realized that he screwed himself and destroyed his legacy by picking a fight with the Saudis (ally) and Russians when he needed them more than any other nation.  Respectfully, the Democrats can go F-off.  They do have no right to expect others to trust their judgment.  

I’ve literally heard all your talking points from earlier this summer.  I continue to encourage Democrats to blame everyone they can for Biden’s failure.   Keep blaming Trump.  I’m going to laugh on election night when Democrats are crying when Donald J. Trump is re-elected President.  I didn’t think Democrats could pull it off.  

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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2021, 07:44:28 PM »

Defund, abolish, and indict for negligent homicide the leadership of the CDC and FDA immediately.


Why does Biden allow this almost criminal sluggishness? We all know, that had Trump been in office, he'd fire Fauci and force them to approve TRUMP PILLS. Moreover, Beautiful TRUMP PILLS would be sent for free to everyone by mail (excluding Enemy of the People - no TRUMP PILLS for them).

Who gives a damn?  He can call it whatever he damn pleases. The reason the US actually has options is due to Trump's handling of that particular issue. 

I think Fauci should be tried for crimes against humanity.  We should make a law that deters people like Fauci from funding or working on Frankenstein viruses that are mutated to be more dangerous and contagious to human beings.  At least not overseas.  Who the F thinks that's okay?  Oh right.  The A-Holes that were doing fist pumps cause they thought Democrats might replace Biden with Murderer Cuomo.   

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2021, 08:20:56 PM »

New Covid Variant is Resistent to vaccines.  It has already made it to London.  The WHO is freaking out.  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/25/who-calls-special-meeting-to-discuss-new-covid-variant-from-south-africa-with-large-number-of-mutations.html

The strain is the most evolved form on the planet, and it experts believe it may have emerged from an HIV patient.  Come one?  That's a bit coincidental given they were studying Covid-19 for it's application in combatting HIV.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10238113/New-Botswana-variant-32-horrific-mutations-evolved-Covid-strain-EVER.html

Covid-19 is mutating way quicker than experts believed, but this exactly in line with two schools of thought: 1) Leaky Vaccine and 2) Covid-19 can coexist and evolve with other viruses.  It looks like the latter was correct.  Either way... all medical options need to be put on the table to combat Covid-19.    
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2021, 08:43:23 PM »

I said before and I will say it again this is the worst thing that could have ever happened to Humanity....



There is doubt in my mind that social media played a destructive role during this pandemic. Because of sites like Facebook being Anti-Vax and Anti-Mask became mainstream among politicians and certain celebrities. Even Red state governors nowadays seem to quickly jump on Twitter or Facebook in order to tell their voters that they are passing laws against vaccine mandates and requiring kids to wear masks

something like that would have never happened in the 90s and because of these social media websites disinformation about mask and vaccines spread faster among people than the delta virus ever did

I honestly believe that we would have never gotten rid of Polio had it showed during the Facebook era

You’re a silly goose.  I remember when Biden blamed his failure to reach vaccination goals on Facebook earlier this summer, because that’s been his game for the last year.  I have such a vivid memory of it.  

So Biden and other Democrats told people not to take the vaccination in November and December of last year cause it was acquired by Trump, and he’s not to be trusted in any regard.  Then Biden and the Democrats tried to take credit for his vaccine accomplishment.  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/31/cdcr-j31.html

Then you had the Biden Administration fabricate this nonsense about the vaccinated not being able to contract or spread Covid-19, but the unvaccinated people were capable of transferring it to vaccinated people, somehow.   Everyone knew he was lying, because there was data from overseas that was being suppressed by scientific journals and news outlets.  Suddenly, Fauci starts claiming that they just received this study demonstrating that vaccinated people can spread Covid-19.  
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/31/cdcr-j31.html

Also, the premise of your argument is such crap, because countries like Portugal have an 86% vaccination rate, and still can’t get handle on Covid-19.  I won’t believe it until the Administration provides total transparency to the public when it comes to the data collected by patients.  No time in the Trump Administration was it ever so bad that we weren’t getting such shoddy information.  The only party that hid Covid-19 cases and deaths was the Democrats in New York, so they could cover up the nursing home deaths.  Yet, Democrats still lie about DeSantis hiding data.  No.  Democrats have a track record of lying about vital data, so they need to bend over backwards to accommodate the suspicions of the American people.  
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cuomo-aides-overruled-health-officials-in-bid-to-hide-nursing-home-deaths-report/ar-BB1gaWrW

What about your misinformation?  Why is it your party was telling BLM guys that they could express their first amendment rights last year, but Jews expressing their rights in NYC needed to be rounded up?  Why is it okay that Democrats are allowed to violently riot and campaign, but Republicans aren’t allowed?  Why are the Trump supporters that go attend a rally super-spreaders, but violent protestors attempting an insurrection at the White House just a peaceful protestors?   It’s clear that the Democrat Party’s only move is lying when it’s convenient and blaming others when they don’t trust you for lying.  Democrats had a recovering economy, vaccine and numerous other treatments, and majority-proof Senate.  But Biden’s Administration could handle a single problem.  The guy finally realized that he screwed himself and destroyed his legacy by picking a fight with the Saudis (ally) and Russians when he needed them more than any other nation.  Respectfully, the Democrats can go F-off.  They do have no right to expect others to trust their judgment.  

I’ve literally heard all your talking points from earlier this summer.  I continue to encourage Democrats to blame everyone they can for Biden’s failure.   Keep blaming Trump.  I’m going to laugh on election night when Democrats are crying when Donald J. Trump is re-elected President.  I didn’t think Democrats could pull it off.  


Call me, whatever you like
I stand by my view that nothing good has come of giving these men all of this power



Even trump himself sees just how powerful the CEO of twitter is. Rather, you agree with trump or not I think it's terrifying that these men literally have the power to silence the president if they really wanted to. Angela Merkel is no trump fan, but even she saw that it was problematic that twitter has the power to permanently suspend a president if they do not like what that president has to say


Letting these social media platforms get increasingly more powerful is a threat to all of us no matter which side of the aisle you are on. I think we can call agree that Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey should have a level of power that they currently have

Great. They have too much power.  That was pretty evident to Republicans when Trump was eliminated from all Media platforms.  The fact that China was able to use news and social media to eliminate all whistleblowers, pictures and videos of Covid-19 from those platforms in December 2019 was also a pretty big red flag.  But that wasn't your point.  Your argument was that Facebook needs to be destroyed cause they allow Republicans to spread alleged 'misinformation' that you baselessly blame as the reason people don't trust the vaccine and masks.  No.  They don't trust Biden or the Democrats.  They don't trust the motivation. 

I don't care anymore.  Biden is completely finished.  I'm not interested in attacking him.  I need him to get off his butt in Nantucket and plan for the shutdown of all flights while keeping commericial transportation.  Mask mandates need to be put in places.  Vaccines are useless as the Delta is being eliminated by Invest Gamma variant.  The country need to work on a new one, as well as other medical options.  Bring every F-ing scientist to the Washington, and get rid of F-ing Fauci for funding this horrible disease. 

Tomorrow people are going to wake up to a new reality. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2021, 08:55:46 PM »

Wow, congrats on being the third person ever (and second person currently) on my mute list intentionally.

Oh no.  I'm on the mute list.  lol. 

By next week, the American public will be putting Democrats on the mute list. 

Gas Prices falling on news of shutdowns and travel bans.  UK has already banned flights tonight. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/25/uk-suspends-flights-to-six-african-countries-as-new-covid-variant-raises-alarms.html
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2021, 03:47:14 PM »

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.



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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2021, 05:07:14 PM »

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.


A travel ban alone is not enough

It may buy us some time, but ultimately what we really need is for Our public health agencies to get off their butts and start quickly approving booster shots and the covid pills

I think we also need a stronger consensus among every state when it comes to how we are fighting this virus because what we are currently doing is not working and this state-by-state patchwork Covid-19 response is failing all of us

I think Lincoln said at best "A house divided against itself cannot stand." and there is little chance we will ever beat covid if we are not even united on how to fight the virus in the first place

A travel ban provides you with more time.  If the travel ban had gone in place sooner in 2020, the country could have had more time to prepare for it before the massive outbreaks in NY.  The disaster in NY was not just a symptom of Nursing Home policy. 

Boosters, antibodies, and pills are needed.  I said that last night. 

I think people were hoping Biden would be a much more moderate individual when he came to office with a +17 approval rating (53-36%).  He did a bad job playing the cards he was dealt.  Like we all want unity, but whose version of it?  lol. 

Houses are divided all the time, and still manage to function.  Not all disagreements rise to the level of barbarism. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2021, 05:33:31 PM »

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister




I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2021, 05:50:05 PM »

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister




I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

I don't really see how that data is useful. Of course countries with such high vaxx rates are going to have mostly vaccinated hospitalizations. What percentage of total cases end up in the hospital? That's the most important question.

Let's me at it from your POV.  If you had numbers suggesting that immunompromised were more likely to die from the infection than a Covid-19 jab, Democrats could make argument that those people should also be jabbed.  You don't know how information can be used until you've analyzed and tossed around some theories.  I've written for a Law Journal.  You don't just write about something that's already been written without adding anything else.  That's what separates the average academics from the extraordinary ones.  Right now there's a Bar Journal sitting on my end table with a cover indicating that the articles are about Covid-19 legal policies and changes.  Covid-19 policies are not only created by medical professionals. 

I agree with you on hospitalization statistics.  I want all the numbers.  Everything. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2021, 05:55:55 PM »

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister




I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 

Another thing. All the concern is based on its transmissibility, but how deadly the new variant isn't really being talked about. If it follows historical patterns and lose their lethality as they become more transmissible, then it's a sign the pandemic is on its last legs.

I think lethality is most important.  I can't comment on the other thing you said cause I'm not competent on that particular sub-issue. 

There are examples of viruses becoming more deadly and transmissable, so I don't find it helpful for scientists to base their opinions on that assumption. 
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2021, 06:17:11 PM »

This British dudes take on the 'O Variant' is pretty comprehensive and easy to digest.  I can find many videos on his channel that answer my question.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxlYyZ08cEg

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