Austrian Elections & Politics 3.0 - Parliamentary Election: Oct. 15

[mgop]

will mister wallner do something about it, he is governor after all, or is it just empty talk.

[mgop]

New Gallup poll:

63% of Austrians want Hofer as FPÖ-leader, 37% want Strache (no word about FPÖ-voters only).

Meaningless, because today the FPÖ will have their convention and elect Strache as their leader and frontrunner for the next federal election.

Also: Hofer would only do 1% better than Strache in the federal poll, getting 34% for the FPÖ instead of 33% for Strache.



And if Kurz runs, the ÖVP would win the election:



http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/63-wollen-lieber-Hofer-als-Strache/271303977

really hope for fpo-spo coalition or even spo-green-neos, ovp is cancer.

[mgop]

Governor Haslauer (ÖVP-Salzburg) is the first major politician to call for early federal elections in the fall (October or November), rather than next year - as planned.

His main argument is the fact that Austria will have the rotating Presidency of the Council of the European Union in the 2nd half of 2018, when the next election is held (as planned).

An election campaign together with Brexit negotiations would be really bad in his opinion (although Sebastian Kurz, ÖVP, is already working out a Brexit and EU-reform plan for these 6 months).

http://derstandard.at/2000054512275/Bis-dass-die-Wahl-2018-sie-scheidet-oder-doch-frueher

I guess Haslauer also has the 2018 state election in Salzburg in mind, which will be held in April or May. Assuming a landslide-win for the ÖVP with Sebastian Kurz in the fall federal election, it could strengthen the Haslauer-ÖVP in the state election. On the other hand, if the federal election is held at the regular date and they are not getting a lot done, it could impact the ÖVP negatively in the state election.

http://derstandard.at/2000054517658/Diese-Bundeslaender-waehlen-bald-die-Ausgangslage

what a delusion...

[mgop]

greens fell from 12% to 9% after presidents idiotic comment. keep up the good work bellen lol

[mgop]

greens fell from 12% to 9% after presidents idiotic comment. keep up the good work bellen lol

Actually, the latest poll showing the Greens at 9% was conducted before VdB's comments.

Don't think the Greens are going much lower than that. Maybe 8%, but that's about it.

yeah but they certainly wont go higher after this

[mgop]

why is kurz more popular than mitterlehner?

[mgop]

why is kurz more popular than mitterlehner?

Because

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=254431.msg5456690#msg5456690

so this is probably not a good time, it's to early. elections are in year and a half so everybody will attack him.

[mgop]

does fpo and spo have common ground on some issues? is that coalition possible?

[mgop]

does fpo and spo have common ground on some issues? is that coalition possible?

theoretically...yes.

practically...no.

the fpö is a party which always flaunts left-wing welfare policies and then governs like a neoliberal party.

they only get the benefit of the doubt right now cause federal state governments are different anyway and the old leadership is gone.

if they want to actually DO their big-spending promises they should govern with the SPÖ...if they are continuing their pro-biz, anti-poor governing streak, they should ally with kurz.

problem would be...it would totally help the SPÖ and alienate many old-school-SPÖ-voters.

fpo is like eastern european right wing parties then, thanks

[mgop]

will kurz end conscription?

[mgop]

will kurz end conscription?

No. Why would he wanna do this ?

Kurz has said in the past that he prefers to keep conscription because it helps integration of foreigners and keeps the radical elements out (in a professional army, it's more likely that radicals volunteer, whereas the conscript army is a broad image of the population as a whole).

Besides, there was A) a referendum in Austria in 2013 in which 60% of voters wanted to keep the conscript army, and B) the FPÖ is also for keeping it and C) this is not an issue at all right now.

because he making "new ovp" and i was thinking he will end that relic of the past since austria is last country in eu with conscription, but ok thats internal topic in austria. ovp - fpo coalition would be good for balkans.

[mgop]

will kurz end conscription?

No. Why would he wanna do this ?

Kurz has said in the past that he prefers to keep conscription because it helps integration of foreigners and keeps the radical elements out (in a professional army, it's more likely that radicals volunteer, whereas the conscript army is a broad image of the population as a whole).

Besides, there was A) a referendum in Austria in 2013 in which 60% of voters wanted to keep the conscript army, and B) the FPÖ is also for keeping it and C) this is not an issue at all right now.

because he making "new ovp" and i was thinking he will end that relic of the past since austria is last country in eu with conscription, but ok thats internal topic in austria. ovp - fpo coalition would be good for balkans.

Finland and Greece also have conscription armies and Sweden will re-introduce it with July 1st.

looks like finland, sweden and austria had choice from usa: either you will enter nato or create your own strong army to fight russians

[mgop]

The legendary ÖVP-politician, party leader and foreign minister Alois Mock has died today:

Ex-Austrian minister who helped tear down Iron Curtain dies



(In this June 27, 1989 file picture, then Hungarian Foreign Minister Gyula Horn, right, along with his Austrian counterpart Alois Mock, left, cut through the barbed wire of the former Iron Curtain marking the border between East and West in Sopron, Hungary. Former Austrian Foreign Minister Alois Mock is dead, nearly three decades after he and his Hungarian counterpart made world headlines by cutting through fencing that represented the communist Iron Curtain separating the two countries. Mock died Thursday, June 1, 2017 at age 82.)

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In other news, the Carinthia state parliament voted today to pass a new state constitution (slightly more friendly towards the Slovenian minority) and more important, to get rid of the Proporz-system with the next state election in early 2018.

Under Proporz, every party achieving at least 10% of the vote, was part of the state government. In the case of Carinthia it means that the state currently has a SPÖ-Green-ÖVP coalition in parliament, but FPÖ and Team Stronach are in the government as well because they got more than 10% in the last state election.

From 2018 on, only the states of Upper Austria and Lower Austria will still have a Proporz-system.

he also helped tear down yugoslavia. good to hear that devil died.

[mgop]

wow ovp-green-neos would really be coalition from hell. just imagine that disgusting ulrike lunacek as something important, yuck. luckily that coalition is not possible, they don't have and will not have majority.

[mgop]

lunacek is war crime defender, look haradinaj case...

[mgop]

if ovp-fpo coalition is realistic, is that mean fpo will betray its voters after election or austria really going in "far right" direction? also what are the odds of kpo-young greens?

[mgop]

if ovp-fpo coalition is realistic, is that mean fpo will betray its voters after election or austria really going in "far right" direction? also what are the odds of kpo-young greens?

do you mean far-right western-european style, far-right eastern-european style or something else?

at best this will be visengrad - lite.

well at least trump style...

[mgop]

ovp can't win elections. they can have most seats but they still have to form a coalition with either spo or fpo.

[mgop]

The new Green posters:

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*mitmenschen comes from "mitmenschlich" (=humane), so it's also "Humane. Not against."

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greens: be a man vote for a woman
>>> shows man on a picture...

[mgop]

so spo, ovp and fpo all hate eachother but 2 of that 3 party will have to form a coalition. it's gonna be long negotiations, maybe even something like holland.

[mgop]

Tender tell me odds for post election coalition: OVP-FPO, OVP-SPO and (my favorite) FPO-SPO?

[mgop]

Thanks. What will Strache get in new cabinet?

[mgop]

12 year olds thinking about pension lol

[mgop]

are there any polls by state?

[mgop]

when can we expect first results?