Transgender woman charged with indecent exposure over Ohio YMCA incident

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Lia Thomas
There's also some who are big and very visually born male.
...and then's people's who don't even pretend.

I apologize for the double post, but you do realize that cisgender woman can also be quite tall or masculine in their appearance right? Simple statistics would indicate that the number of tall cis women is many more than the number of tall trans women (even if, proportionally, trans women are taller than cis women).

The Venn diagram between men and women barely touches each other, so pretending that everyone can't see that a person like Lia Thomas who was in the start of his treatment is born male is ridiculous.

This is a very stupid metric because there are a lot of trans women who pass very well, and lots of cis women who would get incorrectly clocked as trans.

I think that's pretty rare and most likely talked up for the purposes of conversations like this.

If you are, by definition, not clocking these trans women, then how can you possibly say that it's "pretty rare"? This is just survivorship bias, you only notice the trans women who don't pass, so you make this inference that it's rare for a trans woman to pass.

It's a pretty safe assumption

It very much isn't.

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Lia Thomas
There's also some who are big and very visually born male.
...and then's people's who don't even pretend.

I apologize for the double post, but you do realize that cisgender woman can also be quite tall or masculine in their appearance right? Simple statistics would indicate that the number of tall cis women is many more than the number of tall trans women (even if, proportionally, trans women are taller than cis women).

The Venn diagram between men and women barely touches each other, so pretending that everyone can't see that a person like Lia Thomas who was in the start of his treatment is born male is ridiculous.

This is a very stupid metric because there are a lot of trans women who pass very well, and lots of cis women who would get incorrectly clocked as trans.

I think that's pretty rare and most likely talked up for the purposes of conversations like this.

If you are, by definition, not clocking these trans women, then how can you possibly say that it's "pretty rare"? This is just survivorship bias, you only notice the trans women who don't pass, so you make this inference that it's rare for a trans woman to pass.

It's a pretty safe assumption

It very much isn't.

In the close proximity of a locker room, especially given that people in there are changing in and out of clothes, I think it's safe to say that the percentage of people who are mistaken for the wrong sex is incredibly small, and even that is understating it.

We weren't talking about while undressing. We were talking about who is allowed in in the first place. And without undressing, many trans women pass fine. For that matter, a good chunk of us who've gotten SRS would pass fine even undressed.

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I think the serious risk of sexual harassment and violence to trans women if we use the men's changing rooms is more important than cis women not having to see trans women changing and minding their own business, but what do I know.

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I think the serious risk of sexual harassment and violence to trans women if we use the men's changing rooms is more important than cis women not having to see trans women changing and minding their own business, but what do I know.

Wait, so are we allowed to insinuate that certain groups of people are more likely to commit sexual assault now? Just trying to keep up.

Have you ever read any crime statistics ever

Why, yes I have.

A. That's a terf site. B. Even if those statistics are true they don't say anywhere near as much as you think they do.

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I think the serious risk of sexual harassment and violence to trans women if we use the men's changing rooms is more important than cis women not having to see trans women changing and minding their own business, but what do I know.

Wait, so are we allowed to insinuate that certain groups of people are more likely to commit sexual assault now? Just trying to keep up.

Have you ever read any crime statistics ever

Why, yes I have.

A. That's a terf site. B. Even if those statistics are true they don't say anywhere near as much as you think they do.

"Lol"

I see you're triggered.