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« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2023, 09:41:28 PM »

Prime Minister of Jordan, Bisher Khasawneh, said any attempts to expel Palestinians from the West Bank across the Jordan River would be a "declaration of war".

https://news.yahoo.com/jordan-says-beefs-army-presence-220107172.html

Amazing things about the Palestinians' Muslim neighbours. No one wants them.

Jordan will not take one West Bank refugee.

Egypt will not even take one Gazan refugee unless it is a premature baby from the al-Shifa Hospital.

There is a duplicitous side to the Muslim brotherhood towards Gazans. Happy to chant on Al Jazeera and CNN for you, but don't come to our country for help when you need it most.

The US should step up and put pressure on these two countries to do more to help with the situation in Gaza. The US gives $1Bn to each country on an annual basis, and basically get nothing in return.
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« Reply #176 on: November 22, 2023, 02:21:58 AM »

Israeli former IDF spy guy and media whip comments on hostage deal.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz7x1lBrxCb/

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« Reply #177 on: November 22, 2023, 08:05:58 AM »

Online group Stop Antisemitism has been uncovering, using social media posts, the online behaviour of US citizens following the War in Gaza.

They have identified a lot of US citizens tearing down posters of kidnapped Israeli's. These video's are posted online, and then once the people are identified, the pro-Jewish group then contacts their relevant University or workplace, and raises it with the HR department. Then the little red laser dot of HR does its thing.

In this case, an employee has posted support for the Hamas attacks on October 7. Regardless of the poor quality of the media report below, it does raise an issue about people posting things on their social media pages and how it relates to their continued employment.

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Ibrahim R. Mossallam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ7VurDLNIo

As with many people uncovered by this group, it appears this resulted in termination of his employment.
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« Reply #178 on: November 22, 2023, 05:33:06 PM »
« Edited: November 22, 2023, 05:52:45 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Apparently there were tunnel entrances directly from the Al Shifa hospital after all, but Hamas covered them in concrete prior to Israel taking control of the hospital:

https://fxtwitter.com/alexhiggins732/status/1727429855573360810

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🚨 New video shows how Hamas HQ terror tunnel entrances were covered with concrete at the Shifa Hospital.

https://fxtwitter.com/manniefabian/status/1727386017328758951

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The Israel Defense Forces exposes further parts of Hamas’s tunnel network under Shifa Hospital, publishing videos of additional entrances and underground hideout rooms.


Yes. They have found a much larger tunnel network now.

al-Shifa Hospital Tunnels

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz9dd_rOtiJ/

The Israeli's and the US intelligence were providing us with the truth. Attention now needs to be placed on the medical staff and the media at the al-Shifa Hospital.

Normally, when you have a War, the civilians flee in the opposite direction.

In this War, Al-Jazeera and NY Times correspondents, doctors and "crisis actors" coerce hundreds of people to stay around the Hospital to help produce their international soap opera for Western Media.

Will be interesting to see how NY Times, BBC, Al Jazeera deal with this story after they ran an opposite story for 2 weeks straight.

American politicians are now asking similar questions about these exact media outlets as being the voice-piece for Hamas.

Rep. Brian Mast - Hamas Lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bbEi8PrXZQ



The doctors in the Hospital can no longer deny the blatant military and kidnapping activities within the al-Shifa complex of their bosses.
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« Reply #179 on: November 22, 2023, 07:18:56 PM »
« Edited: November 22, 2023, 08:02:19 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Apparently the situation in Lebanon is actually even worse. 2 sons of 2 separate Hezbollah MPs have been killed, not just 1.

https://fxtwitter.com/jobahout/status/1727469132780605577

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(PS: two are sons of the party’s MPs, Raad and Cherri)

So Hezbollah is surely going to hit back somehow in response to this. Then, particularly if a ceasefire does take hold in Gaza, Israel will have a large mobilized army ready to go, with nothing else to do.

Netanyahu and the Israeli war cabinet may decide that now is their moment of opportunity to deal with Hezbollah. And if this is what they are thinking, that may have been part of the reason why they were willing to accept a ceasefire in Gaza.

You have raised some excellent points today, and I follow along with all of it.

Lebanon is broke.

They cannot afford to lose billions of dollars of infrastructure being destroyed by an Israeli targeted missile campaign.

It may in fact be a US targeted missile campaign as Bidey Bide's has already warned them in no uncertain terms.

Lebanon simply cannot afford it.

My understanding is that the Israel (and potentially the US) has missiles pointed at Lebanese infrastructure including key roads, water, electricity, communications and other engineering facilities. With one to two days of missile strikes, Lebanon would be billions of dollars in the red without the money to fix it.
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« Reply #180 on: November 22, 2023, 07:55:18 PM »

PBS News Hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly2aADM1dnQ

National Security Advisor Admiral John Kirby talks to PBC News Hour about the grits of the hostage deal.

It was not clear which 50 hostages will be released. Someone also noted that some of the children are not being held by Hamas, so the negotiations with Palestinian Islamic Jihad and private terrorists with no brand are very complicated.

Not everyone is happy in Israel about the hostage swap.


Meir Schijveschuurder (PBS News Hour)

Some Israeli's, including Meir Schijveschuurder, are concerned that 150 Palestinian terrorists will be released straight back onto the streets of Jerusalem in exchange for innocent Israeli's.
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« Reply #181 on: November 23, 2023, 06:53:04 PM »
« Edited: November 23, 2023, 09:35:24 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

DW News

Arrests made in Berlin targeting Hamas and other groups which were banned by Germany earlier this month.

Over 300 Police Officers were involved in the arrests.

Germany banned Hamas and Samidoun on November 2, 2023.

"We are carrying out action against radical Islamists," Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said earlier on Thursday.

"By banning Hamas and Samidoun in Germany, we have sent a clear signal that we will not tolerate any apology or support for Hamas's barbaric terror against Israel."

"Islamists and ant-Semites must not feel safe anywhere."

Pro-Hamas Arrests In Berlin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Lb6a6vse8

DW News estimate that 450 Hamas operatives are in Germany involved in fundraising etc for Hamas.
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« Reply #182 on: November 24, 2023, 09:16:46 AM »

Egyptian Border

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0CBxAlOiJB/

Representatives waiting to receive Israeli hostages.
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« Reply #183 on: November 24, 2023, 10:21:57 AM »
« Edited: November 24, 2023, 10:28:27 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

As above, 13 Israeli's plus 12 Thai hostages freed.

25 is a great start.

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« Reply #184 on: November 24, 2023, 11:13:08 AM »

Canadian photographer, Shye Klein, shares his story of escaping the NOVA music festival.

Islamic militants, hands drenched in blood, were pulling over cars and committing mass murder on the highways of southern Israel.

Shye had to make an impossible choice about stopping the car or driving away.

NOVA Music Festival Escape

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0CKYhWATcn/

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« Reply #185 on: November 24, 2023, 07:06:00 PM »
« Edited: November 24, 2023, 07:17:26 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

17 November, 2023

The greatest political leader in Australia's history, former Prime Minister John Howard, has addressed the Jewish community in Sydney, NSW.



Former Prime Minister John Howard with Rabbi Levi Wolff at Central Synagogue. (AJN)

https://www.australianjewishnews.com/enriched-our-lives-and-our-nation/

“When I read stories of discrimination against Jewish people, where I hear stories of schools telling their students not to wear their uniforms outside the school grounds, I think to myself this cannot be the Australia that I grew up in, it cannot be the Australia that was so magnificently led on the battlefields of World War I by arguably Australia’s greatest Jewish son, General John Monash.”

All of the last 5-6(?) former Prime Ministers of Australia going back to John Howard have come out in support of Israel in their fight against Hamas.

Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Penny Wong confirmed sanctions on Hamas' members had been put in place amid calls for the Albanese government to call for a ceasefire in the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

"The Australian Government has imposed counter-terrorism financing sanctions on eight persons and one entity in response to the acts of terrorism perpetrated by Hamas on October 7, 2023," Ms Wong said in a statement on Saturday.

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« Reply #186 on: November 24, 2023, 07:46:23 PM »

PBS News Hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nti9pTphMH4

Nick Schifrin spoke to Dr Majed Bin Mohammed Al Ansari, Advisor to the Prime Minister of Qatar, about the hostage negotiations.

They talked about the process of releasing hostages. A couple of key points starting to emerge from this and other interviews:

  • Israeli soldiers will not be released any time soon;
  • No one knows how many hostages are actually alive;
  • Red Crescent has been denied access to the hostages;
  • Other groups outside Hamas are holding hostages.

This process is utterly corrupt. I am surprised Qatar would muddy their name by associating themselves with harbouring Hamas in the first place. Apparently, they have been doing so for 12 years.
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« Reply #187 on: November 25, 2023, 06:52:11 AM »

The longer this goes on, the worse this gets for Hamas. I thought the Islamic terrorist saying goodbye to the little boy was incredibly bad PR. It actually illustrates how fake Hamas really is. It shows what Hamas thinks of Westerners who are watching it.

IDF Summary

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0EBRuboRmf/

Israel were amazingly defiant to attack very hard and still get hostages returned, the complete opposite of normal logic.

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« Reply #188 on: November 25, 2023, 09:07:11 AM »

The luckiest father in the World.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-26/gaza-hostages-release-second-day/103151188


Sisters Aviv and Raz Asher and mother Doron react as they meet with their father and husband after returning to Israel.(Schneider Children's Medical Center Spokesperson via Reuters)

"The former hostages underwent medical checks before returning for emotional reunions with relatives in Israel, where happiness mingled with concern for those still held by militants in Gaza."

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« Reply #189 on: November 25, 2023, 05:56:32 PM »
« Edited: November 25, 2023, 07:59:38 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

17 Hostages released overnight by the Islamic terrorists. 13 Israeli's, 4 Thai hostages.


Second group of Israeli hostages released. (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/17-hostages-released-second-group-israel-hamas-pause-fighting-gaza-rcna126651

Siblings Noam Or, 17, and Alma Or, 13, were also released. The brother and sister, along with their father, Dror, were taken from their home in Kibbutz Be’eri.

"Their mother Yonat was murdered and their older brother Yahli survived the inferno as he was at his post in northern Israel where he is doing a year of national service," the group said.

Netanyahu said amongst the hostages released were:

  • Emily Hand, 9;
  • Noam Or, 17;
  • Alma Or, 13;
  • Shiri Weiss, 53;
  • Noga Weiss, 18;
  • Sharon Hertzman Avigdori, 52, mother of;
  • Noam Avigdori, 12;
  • Shoshan Haran, 67;
  • Haran's daughter Adi Shoham, 38 and her grandchildren;
  • Neve Shoham, 8 and;
  • Yahal Shoham, 3;
  • Hila Rotem Shoshani, 12 and;
  • Mia Regev Jarbi, 21.

No Americans released today.
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« Reply #190 on: November 25, 2023, 06:40:33 PM »
« Edited: November 25, 2023, 07:40:18 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Netanyahu's spokeswoman at CNN right now.

Palestinians say delay today was because Israel wasn't upholding it's part of the deal regarding food trucks entering Gaza and a list of prisoners. She answers: "today entered more trucks than ever from the start of the war". So she basicaly confirmes it.

Out of 39 Palestinians released today, 33 are under 18 and 24, yes, twenty four are held without being accused and put on trial for a crime. S

So why are they not called hostages?

A better definition of hostages would be the 8,000 Muslim men of Srebrenica in July 1995 who were taken at gunpoint and placed on buses by Serbian forces.

https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/bosnia/srebrenica/

Oh wait, that' was a massacre of totally innocent people by gutless cowards.

Serbian military shooting Bosnian teenage boys on the side of the road in the back of the head.
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« Reply #191 on: November 25, 2023, 10:44:11 PM »

Ohad Munder

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0FoA7PJEcE/

Reunited with his family. These hostage releases are a PR disaster for the Palestinian cause.

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« Reply #192 on: November 26, 2023, 06:57:06 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2023, 07:00:13 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

FoxNews and CNN are saying that 13 Israeli hostages set to be released on Sunday according to a list including one American.


Mother and daughter Raya and Hila Rotem, taken captive by Hamas terrorists on October 7, 2023 from their home in Kibbutz Be’eri. Hila was released on November 26, 2023. (Courtesy)

The Times of Israel has more details on the hostages released yesterday.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/13-israelis-including-8-kids-freed-by-hamas-after-50-days-as-gaza-hostages/


Emily Hand was abducted from a friend’s home in Kibbutz Be’eri on October 7, 2023. She was initially thought to have been killed. (Courtesy)
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« Reply #193 on: November 26, 2023, 06:00:33 PM »
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Emotions running hot with more hostage returns. 17 total hostages returned on Sunday.


Top row, from left: Chen Goldstein Almog, Gal Goldstein Almog, Tal Goldstein Almog, Agam Goldstein Almog and Abigail Edan. Middle row, from left: Ofry Brodutch, Oria Brodutch, Yuval Brodutch, Hagar Brodutch and Adrienne (Aviva) Siegel. Bottom row, from left: Alma Avraham, Dafna Elyakim and Ela Elyakim. Hostages and Missing Families Forum/AP

Channel 4 News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ulTn2FQRm0

These hostage releases are a big PR win for Israel, with a national euphoria developing as more young children are released back to their families, reminding the World of what happened in the first place.

It's hard to watch Irishman Thomas Hand re-united with his 9 y.o. daughter, Emily, especially after he was told she was most likely killed. Emily went to the southern Kibbutz for a sleep over on the eve of the Islamic terror attack.

Intelligence from the released hostages is helping the Israeli's discover the truth about who is alive and how they are doing.

ABC (US) News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn4pLwCixgA

There are children who are still hostages. There are children returning whose relatives and friends were murdered in front of them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/26/abigail-edan-american-hostage-released-hamas/

President Joe Biden spoke on the case of 3 y.o. Abigail Edan (Avigail Idan), whose parents were massacred on the day she was kidnapped.

“The proof that this is working and worth pursuing further is in every smile and every grateful tears we see on the faces of those families who are finally getting back together again,” Biden said.

“The proof is little Abigail. More than 20 other children, 18 years and younger, have been released. They’ve been released through this deal as well.”

Biden said the girl “has been through a terrible trauma.”

Biden said that Avigail's Mother was shot in front of her, so she ran to her Father who shielded here from the Hamas terrorists. Biden went on to say that after the terrorists killed the Father, Avigail ran to her neighbours house. The 3 year old was then taken hostage and moved to Gaza where she remained for 49 days.

Avigail Idan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBLvPKT3R6k


US President Joe Biden delivers remarks on the release of hostages from Gaza, on November 26, in Nantucket, Massachusetts. Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

"I wish I were there to hold her," he said.

"Today she's free, and Jilly [first lady of the US Jill Biden] and I, together with so many Americans, are praying for the fact that she is going to be alright"

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« Reply #194 on: November 27, 2023, 08:24:01 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2023, 11:05:14 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

An amazing story of survival for one of the freed hostages, Ron Krivoi, a dual Israeli-Russian citizen.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-775321


Ron Krivoi (Facebook)

Ron was taken from the music festival where he was working (?) as a D.J.

During his captivity on the Gaza Strip, an Israeli missile struck the building he was in and it partially collapsed. After the event, he managed to escape his captors.

In something resembling a movie script according to his Aunty, Ron was hiding in the Gaza Strip alone for a few days.

"He tried getting to the border. He did not have the capacity to understand where he was and where he needed to go, so he could not navigate the open field. He was alone," his Aunty Magid added.

He was later identified by Palestinians and returned to Hamas.

The Israeli hostages have been simply incredible to survive 50 days kidnapped by Islamic terrorists.

I am so happy theses people are starting to be released back to their families and loved ones. It brings home the reality of what actually happened on October 7.

A huge PR win for Israel, especially when the President of the United States tells the story of Israel's youngest kidnappee.
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« Reply #195 on: November 27, 2023, 11:03:26 AM »

Elon Musk visits Kfar Aza Kibbutz with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Elon Musk

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« Reply #196 on: November 27, 2023, 11:16:28 AM »

The MSM is doing what it typically does which is names, smiling faces, ages, and emotion laden stories of individual Israeli hostages freed, not a single one of Palestinian prisoners freed, just numbers in passing. If I hadn't been blackpilled on the MSM already from Covid this would have done it.

I agree. There should be more coverage of the Palestinian prisoners released. If I weren't already blackpilled on the MSM, this would have done it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/

You won't find the words "Israeli Hostages" in any of their news titles.
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« Reply #197 on: November 28, 2023, 12:10:06 AM »
« Edited: November 28, 2023, 01:57:37 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Another 11 hostages released by Hamas terrorists.


11 Hostages released yesterday, mainly children. (CNN)

The World just looks on in horror and now gets to read about their family reunion, the initial capture involving murder and mayhem and then the sheer terror their families must have gone through over the last 51 days. In yet another obtuse display by Hamas, they had armed terrorists in black balaclavas handing over babies held by women wearing pink.

Hamas has not released many of the parents of the released children.


Small children were among 11 hostages handed over by Hamas on Monday. Photograph: Anadolu/Getty Images

A deal has been reached to extend the truce for 2 days, presumably as Hamas plans to release more Israeli hostages.

ITV News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOXxzkWDRu8

Hard to watch for any parent. Thomas Hand spoke for the first time about his daughter Emily.

Most of the parents of the children released today from Gaza still remain captive by Hamas. ITV said another 6 Thai's were release in addition to the 11 Israeli's.

Mark Regev, chief political advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, talks to the media about the humanitarian pause.

MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHOgDjvRUfU

Sky News Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQ9k9yRx8

The amazing part is how Hamas are completely unaware just how bad this looks. The image of militants in balaclavas with machine guns guarding toddlers who are now separated from their father. It's the worst PR look imaginable.

Mark Regev discussed the kidnapping of twin toddlers aged 3. He believes the only reason why the hostages were released was because of the intense military action taken by Israel. Once Hamas finish handing over terrorists, Mark said that Israel are preparing to resume hostilities.

"Israeli's simply refuse to live any longer next to this terror enclave on our southern border."
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« Reply #198 on: November 28, 2023, 07:31:55 AM »
« Edited: November 28, 2023, 07:35:43 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Hamas now publishing propaganda they say is from their captives in an attempt to win the last vestiges of support from the young Western crowd who appears to follow their cause.



It's basically a "thank you for kidnapping us" letter.
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« Reply #199 on: November 28, 2023, 08:08:59 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2023, 08:12:14 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Israel now face some tough choices as listed above.

IDF Spokesman Lt. Col. Jon Conricus talks about the next phase of the War to three different conservative media outlets.

It is interesting to see what he thinks the way forward is for this conflict.

Lt. Col. Jon Conricus - Spokesperson for the IDF.

Sky News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YSM01kkr4Y

Fox News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J3t4Q0HHuQ

News Nation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cQv8R4Hxes

A more detailed look at the visit to the Kibbutz in southern Israel by Elon Musk with an extended interview with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for the forum’s listening pleasure.

Elon Musk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJq1WmGM8s
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