Opinion of the #BernieorBust movement

[nicholas.slaydon]

#BernieOrBust! I would never vote for ANYONE who voted for the Iraq War, The USA Patriot Act, anyone who takes money from corporate donors, lobbies for free trade deals, authored the Libyan Intervention, The Syrian Intervention, anyone who gave weapons deals to the Wahhabi Terror State that is Saudi Arabia, lobbies for fracking, anyone who refuses to call out Benjamin Netanyahu on his Gaza Strip Slaughter and anyone who supported The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. That includes Hillary Clinton. I would stay at home and not vote at all.

[nicholas.slaydon]

I went rambling on about this the other day. I'll requote:

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Simply put, it's stupid.

Hillary is terrible on basically every issue I care about. She's OK on abortion, I guess.

You must not care about any actual issues then

Issues stated above.

[nicholas.slaydon]

Or how about Hillary says she will continue the Drone Program which 90% of the time "does not hit the intended target". She is in favor of arming "Moderate Sunni Rebels" in Syria, which have been hijacked by Jihadists and Islamists and don't even exist anymore (seeing as all of the moderates have fled to Turkey, Jordan and Europe). She is in favor of continuing Obamas HORRIBLE policy of cracking down on inoccent Whistleblowers. And on the issue of guns pretty much everybody is wrong, there should be no such thing as an individual owning a firearm, so both Hillary and Bernie are very wrong on that issue.

[nicholas.slaydon]

Or how about Hillary says she will continue the Drone Program which 90% of the time "does not hit the intended target". She is in favor of continuing Obamas HORRIBLE policy of cracking down on inoccent Whistleblowers. And on the issue of guns pretty much everybody is wrong, there should be no such thing as an individual owning a firearm, so both Hillary and Bernie are very wrong on that issue.

What's the point of quoting without attribution?

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/90-of-people-killed-by-us-drone-strikes-in-afghani/

[nicholas.slaydon]

Or how about Hillary says she will continue the Drone Program which 90% of the time "does not hit the intended target". She is in favor of continuing Obamas HORRIBLE policy of cracking down on inoccent Whistleblowers. And on the issue of guns pretty much everybody is wrong, there should be no such thing as an individual owning a firearm, so both Hillary and Bernie are very wrong on that issue.

What's the point of quoting without attribution?

http://www.ibtimes.com/nearly-90-those-killed-us-drones-were-not-intended-targets-during-five-month-span-2142183

[nicholas.slaydon]

I really could go on.

Or you could just give us a link to the RNC website.

LOL, I didn't even notice the last paragraph. jfern has gone full Reince Priebus.

On TPP - Wasn't she "for this" when it was basically a bare bones framework? I mean, even I as a Hillary supporter can admit she probably is pandering to the left on this, but it's hard to frame it as a flip flop to be for something in theory but against it if it didn't go the way you expected/hoped.

As jfern very well knows, DADT was actually an improvement at the time, since before that there were active witch hunts to find and kick out gays. DOMA was supported by many Democrats, including progressive hero Paul Wellstone, to stop a constitutional amendment (spoiler: nobody liked gays in the 90s!) And didn't Saint Bernard say gay marriage was "too divisive" and that he preferred civil unions as late as 2006? Yes, it turns out he's a politician as well! What a revelation I'm sure that will be for you.

Oh wait aren't you admitting now that Hillary lobbied for the TPP as SOS without even knowing what was in it. Because we know from her emails that she lobbied for the TPP 45 times, and your saying she didnt even know what was in it till this year. So do you really want a president who will lobby for a trade deal without even knowing what is in it?

[nicholas.slaydon]

Leave it to a maroon avatar to link the Moony Times and IBD citing a report from The Intercept.

Have you even heard of the "Drone Papers" the largest government leak since Edward Snowden. The information is all there. Hillary hacks find it hard to argue against the factual substance of the arguments presented against them, so they resort to smearing the media, like the good Republicans they are.

[nicholas.slaydon]

Some others I just remembered. She wants to backdoor your encryption so that hackers get your credit card information. She's for warrantless wiretaps. In the last debate she went totally Likud, and she did the same with her AIPAC speech. Her campaign chair is a Saudi lobbyist. She voted for the 2001 bankruptcy bill (Elizabeth Warren was really pissed about this). She claims that you can't have supported the auto bailout and opposed TARP. She supported the Honduras coup. The Clinton Foundation takes a lot of money from dictators, and some of it is through a Canadian non-profit so that they don't have to release donor information.  

Are you capable of saying a single thing that is true or accurate?

Hey, you have to admit she voted for the USA Patriot Act which allowed the NSA to rip the constitution to shreds. Bye, Bye 4th Amendment, And your right from unreasonable search and seizure. Bye, Bye 8th Amendment, and denying the right of government detainees from invoking the writ of Habeus Corpus and protection from arbitrary detainment and protection from cruel and unusual punishment.

[nicholas.slaydon]

Some others I just remembered. She wants to backdoor your encryption so that hackers get your credit card information. She's for warrantless wiretaps. In the last debate she went totally Likud, and she did the same with her AIPAC speech. Her campaign chair is a Saudi lobbyist. She voted for the 2001 bankruptcy bill (Elizabeth Warren was really pissed about this). She claims that you can't have supported the auto bailout and opposed TARP. She supported the Honduras coup. The Clinton Foundation takes a lot of money from dictators, and some of it is through a Canadian non-profit so that they don't have to release donor information.  

Are you capable of saying a single thing that is true or accurate?

Hey, you have to admit she voted for the USA Patriot Act which allowed the NSA to rip the constitution to shreds. Bye, Bye 4th Amendment, And your right from unreasonable search and seizure. Bye, Bye 8th Amendment, and denying the right of government detainees from invoking the writ of Habeus Corpus and protection from arbitrary detainment and protection from cruel and unusual punishment.

Funnily enough, Clinton was a major critic of the Bush administration using warrantless wiretaps and voted not to authorize that section of the PATRIOT ACT in 2006.

Where was she when Obama EXPANDED NSA spying? So let me get this straight NSA spying is bad when Bush does it but is OK when Obama does it. Her double standard is showing.