11 year old rape victim forced to carry to term thanks to Ohio law.

[Joe Republic]

Or: innocent child allowed to live their life thanks to Ohio law.

No she isn’t, she’s being forced to carry a baby against her will.

[Joe Republic]

Can we please ban anybody who actually believes the Government should force a child to have a child because she was raped by a pedophile. How is this even a credible opinion to hold in the year 2019?

It's a credible opinion because the circumstances of a woman's pregnancy does not affect the humanity of the unborn child.  That unborn child who is the product of this twisted rape is no less human than you or I were at that point in human development.

This 11 year old child either knows that reality right now, or will figure it out as she grows older.  It will hit her one day, and the effect it will have on her on that day is dependent, at least in part, on the decisions she makes regarding life and death for that unborn child.

If people are honest, they can't argue with what I just said. 

That may not be necessary, having died during childbirth.

[Joe Republic]

This thread is an abortion, and Fuzzy Bear is now administering the procedure.

[Joe Republic]

This thread is an abortion, and Fuzzy Bear is now administering the procedure.

... The procedure is still ongoing, but FB has now discarded the rusty coat hanger and is reaching for the vacuum cleaner.

[Joe Republic]

I'm pretty funny and clever

[Joe Republic]

Imagine growing up knowing that your life was the product of your daddy raping your mommy while she was in fifth grade.  Or not knowing because your family chose to lie to you your whole life instead.

Heartwarming stuff.

[Joe Republic]

Imagine growing up knowing that your life was the product of your daddy raping your mommy while she was in fifth grade.  Or not knowing because your family chose to lie to you your whole life instead.

Heartwarming stuff.

Imagine being told by a bunch of woke people it'd be better if you were killed in the womb.

No...?  Why would anybody ever say that?  Is this what you think being pro-choice is about?

[Joe Republic]

Imagine growing up knowing that your life was the product of your daddy raping your mommy while she was in fifth grade.  Or not knowing because your family chose to lie to you your whole life instead.

Heartwarming stuff.

Imagine being told by a bunch of woke people it'd be better if you were killed in the womb.

No...?  Why would anybody ever say that?  Is this what you think being pro-choice is about?

Then what is the point of your sarcasm about it being "heartwarming" that such a child would be given the chance to live?

I was putting myself in the lose-lose existential crisis that being an adult that was once a baby conceived by rape would inevitably create.  How much therapy would solve that?  I wouldn't be surprised if severe depression and suicide were common threats to such a person.

You, for some reason, argued that the pro-choice crowd would be happy to inform this same person that yeah, it absolutely would be better if they'd been aborted.  You do realize that basically everybody in the pro-choice camp (excluding the eugenics assholes) is theoretically supportive of every mother's decision whether or not to abort?

[Joe Republic]

Man, this thread really is the worst.  Like, has anybody changed their minds on any of this, at all?

I actually do understand the pro-life position, even when it comes to a fifth grader being raped, but there's no way in hell I'm going to agree with it.

If you believe in a god that chooses to create a miracle of life out of an incident of violence, lust, hate, pain and fear, then you do you, and you can keep it.

[Joe Republic]

You, for some reason, argued that the pro-choice crowd would be happy to inform this same person that yeah, it absolutely would be better if they'd been aborted.  You do realize that basically everybody in the pro-choice camp (excluding the eugenics assholes) is theoretically supportive of every mother's decision whether or not to abort?

Theoretically supportive.   In practice, in many circumstances they assume abortion is the way to go.  It's  all over this thread.

The assumption is there because the specific circumstances make it seem like the obvious solution.  An eleven year-old girl was raped.  To most anybody the solution is absolutely obvious... but if she and the family had freely decided to keep it, I assure you the pro-choice crowd would be supportive and accepting (not that it has anything to do with anybody else at all but them).  Hence why it's "pro-choice", and not "pro-death" as some on the other side like to say.

[Joe Republic]

^ On the other hand, perhaps the aborted child will be reincarnated into a different body under happier circumstances.


Oh... reincarnation isn't real?  Well guess what, neither is what you just posted.

If you believe in a god that chooses to create a miracle of life out of an incident of violence, lust, hate, pain and fear, then you do you, and you can fucking keep it.

[Joe Republic]

... And ultimately has nothing to do with you.  Or me.  Or anybody but the individuals directly involved.

[Joe Republic]

So we've now moved on to the totally sane and completely rational discussion of how much prison time an 11 year-old girl should get for choosing to abort her rapist's baby.

This thread is truly a shining moment for the Atlas Forum conservatives.  You're coming off so well here, really.  So many minds have been changed here.

[Joe Republic]

Or is it OK to cave on principle just because you've had a Mind Meld with Joe Republic?  You tell me.

I am hereby giving notice of my intent to vacate your head, please.  Paying no rent is great and all, but it’s too small, empty, and closed off from the real world.

[Joe Republic]

Just curious, and I’m sure as hell not going to go back and find out, but how many posts in this 22 page thread are by women?

(Yes it matters.)

[Joe Republic]

Okay, so what do the aborted/miscarried embryos do in Heaven?  Do they just float around in a huge Heavenly Petri Dish?  Do they have wings?

[Joe Republic]

Okay, so what do the aborted/miscarried embryos do in Heaven?  Do they just float around in a huge Heavenly Petri Dish?  Do they have wings?

They are praising God, day and night, living in the light of His Glory for ever and ever.  They know no sorrow, no sadness; all is the Joy of the Lord.

It is so wonderful, the Human Mind cannot fully wrap itself around how wonderful Heaven is.

How does a zygote praise God?  Be specific, please.  Also, day and night, you say?  Isn't that utterly exhausting for single-cell organisms?

[Joe Republic]

Okay, so what do the aborted/miscarried embryos do in Heaven?  Do they just float around in a huge Heavenly Petri Dish?  Do they have wings?

They are praising God, day and night, living in the light of His Glory for ever and ever.  They know no sorrow, no sadness; all is the Joy of the Lord.

It is so wonderful, the Human Mind cannot fully wrap itself around how wonderful Heaven is.

How does a zygote praise God?  Be specific, please.  Also, day and night, you say?  Isn't that utterly exhausting for single-cell organisms?

The "zygote" has an eternal soul that is in Heaven, praising God, day and night.  The "zygote" is a human being, part of Fallen Man that Jesus died for.

How does a zygote praise God?  Be specific, please.  Also, day and night, you say?  Isn't that utterly exhausting for single-cell organisms?