Will Biden win Elliott County, KY?

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Why was hillary clinton so despised  in these areas? she's was the first lady of Arkansas for a long-time and Bill was loved by those states.

Her comment containing a reference of putting coal mines out of business alienated many people in this coal-producing region.

Someone mentioned on a previous Elliott County thread that the county never had coal production and was primarily agricultural. I imagine issues like guns still played a role.

Guns alone can't explain it. If they could the county would have been lost to the Democrats in the 90s since Bill Clinton was pretty strongly pro-gun control. I think it's more that prior to 2016 Democrats were still perceived as the more populist party and because more then most other places being a Democrat seemed to be central to the identity of the area that always took precedent over social and cultural issues. It was a combination of Hillary more then any previous Democratic nominee leading off with cultural issues and Trump running as a populist that did it. If Hillary had been the nominee in 2008 she would probably have dominated in a place like Elliot and even in 2016 I think would have held on just barely if the Republican nominee had been anybody else.

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2008: Obama +25.2
2010: Conway +33.6
2011: Beshear +53.5
2012: Obama +2.5
2014: Grimes +12.0
2015: Conway +17.1
2016: Trump +44.1
2019: Beshear +20.7

What was Daddy Beshear's margin in 2007?

Beshear +77.7 (89-11)

That's insanely high

Kind of a tangent but it's always amazed me how for decades Appalachian counties that were demographically and culturally indistinguishable from each other tended to have North Korea like margins for one party or another.

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2008: Obama +25.2
2010: Conway +33.6
2011: Beshear +53.5
2012: Obama +2.5
2014: Grimes +12.0
2015: Conway +17.1
2016: Trump +44.1
2019: Beshear +20.7

What was Daddy Beshear's margin in 2007?

Beshear +77.7 (89-11)

That's insanely high

Kind of a tangent but it's always amazed me how for decades Appalachian counties that were demographically and culturally indistinguishable from each other tended to have North Korea like margins for one party or another.

That's like Mississippi for FDR type numbers...

It's less weird for one party or another to dominate in a particular place and time though. The vast political divide between counties like Elliot and ancestrally unionist GOP counties like Owsley in Appalachia that only really began to narrow in the past two decades is like if there had been a cluster of Mississippi counties back then or heavily black counties today that were overwhelmingly Republican (by the same margin as their Democratic counterparts) or say a white evangelical enclave today that was overwhelmingly Democratic.

I mean maybe there are cultural distinctions within Appalachia that i'm unaware of that natives of the region would be so I could be missing something.