2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

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Just out of curiosity:

Is there any sense of talks in United States about changing this outdated eclection system? To be honest it is extremely hard to find  valid reasons in todays world that one of the two candidates may lead by millions of votes but potentially losing the US election.

Or is this no discussion at all? What would be required to change this - 2/3 in Congress? (of course will never happen).

Welcome, friend!

So there has been discussion about change.  But one of the biggest roadblocks is a sense of "well this is the way things have always been" and "we shouldn't let the population centers decide the Presidency". 

And some people prefer the current system because of its flaws. They benefit some parts of the country, the more rural parts and lowers the influence of the big cities.

This is a myth. The electoral college only benefits whatever states happen to be swing states.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324353932022480896?s=19

Ah, there it is.  

Also, the count is what's potentially going to save you in Arizona, you stupid stupid man. 

Yep. If the count everywhere stopped right now, Biden would win 270-268.

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Please finish counting the votes in this century!

Is this place just a pro-Biden circlejerk or is there a legitimate chance of him winning all the remaining states?

North Carolina and Alaska are unlikely, but everything else looks like pretty good, fingers crossed.

It would be hilarious if the next call is GA for Biden, just to see the hand-wringing about a tie.

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Will NV be called today? or is everyone sh**tting their pants hoping PA does the job for everyone?

NV being called before PA would be terrifying because only AP and Fox have called AZ, but Trump could come back there.

I sincerely hope either PA/GA is called first, or another org calls AZ.

GA would only get Biden to 269.

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In other news, it looks like third parties performed phenomenally well in rural Alaska compared to elsewhere. The combined two-party vote in the North Slope only stands at 85.4% as of now.

IIRC Ralph Nader did very well there in 2000.

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Will NV be called today? or is everyone sh**tting their pants hoping PA does the job for everyone?

NV being called before PA would be terrifying because only AP and Fox have called AZ, but Trump could come back there.

I sincerely hope either PA/GA is called first, or another org calls AZ.

GA would only get Biden to 269.

No, Biden would have 270 due to capturing both NE-2 and ME-2.

Trump won ME-2

That's right, I checked again and that is true. But there is still NV.

Right, and I'm expecting Biden to win NV. I was just talking about the prospect of a GA call coming while AP and Fox still have AZ called for Biden, which would allow AP and Fox, but no one else, call the whole thing for Biden.

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GA just dumped again

What does it look like?

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Something else: MA and CA "battle" which states gave Biden the highest vote share aside from DC. It was HI in previous elections, but that's just at about 63%, similar to MD. He's at 66% in MA and 65% in CA, with still a ton of votes to be added. Dude, I'd love it if CA ended up as the most Dem state. I love my homestate big league!

I'm surprised Biden apparently cracked 60% in WA and NJ as I expected him to be just under that mark. NY is just 58%, but only 80% counted so far.

WBUR has over 99% of Massachusetts in, and it's basically what you said. I assume we'll have to wait a while for California.

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Are there any popular Hispanic male politicians from Pennsylvania who are fluent in both English and Spanish in the state legislature or the congress? If the results of this election are anything to go by, someone who fits that profile would immediately rocket to the top of the 2024 contenders for the Democratic nomination.

I feel like this isn’t the best way to choose a nominee

However, this oddly specific request has piqued my interest, I’m gonna look now

Jay Costa from SD-43 is hispanic and male, not sure if he’s popular or speaks Spanish though. Either way, no state legislator is winning the nomination

I found this guy: https://www.pahouse.com/Burgos/About/Biography

It doesn't explicitly say that he speaks Spanish, but he's "first-generation" so he probably does. Also apparently he's only like 40 so he has that going for him.

There's also Angel Cruz: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/house_bio.cfm?id=304

No idea if he speaks Spanish.

Either way, a state legislator from Philly is not winning the presidential nomination. They would need to become Governor or Senator or maaaybe US Rep first.

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So Far MA was a Bidenslide even in the rural parts. Not sure how late ballots trend. However most actual Urban areas in MA swung towards Trump, we could see a closer PV than expected if this holds true.



https://twitter.com/richparr79/status/1324362497164496899

https://twitter.com/skoczela/status/1324364398975176705

This could also mean there was depolarization lol.

Those places have large Hispanic populations.

I'm less sure what's going on with those random R-swinging towns in the Berkshires, but they're very WWC.

Overall I'm happy that the Massachusetts realignment of 2016 did not continue.

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NBC talking heads: "Our viewers are too stupid to understand what happens when there's an electoral college tie."

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Trump bragging about winning Indiana.

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Unless Biden takes an ACTUAL lead (and not a theoretical media one) in Pennsylvania, this race is far from over.

Yeah, it sure is slow. Still a lot of conjecture from Dems, I'm not at all convinced Biden has this.

I find it hard to imagine a scenario where Biden loses PA but wins Eerie county.

Yeah, that would really be eerie.

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They'd better get Pennsylvania called today. After that they can take their time.

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https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1324748146258313216

For a second I thought this was Santa Cruz County, California, and I was really confused.

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Let's all take a second and be glad that California isn't a swing state - it's still only at 77% counted. Ditto Alaska.

Hey, Alaska could be a swing state for all we know. But it's not populous enough to make a difference in most cases.

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God, that means Republicans get to carve a Republican CD out of New Hampshire, right? At least the state is elastic enough that it probably can't be completely Safe R.

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God, that means Republicans get to carve a Republican CD out of New Hampshire, right? At least the state is elastic enough that it probably can't be completely Safe R.

Is that even possible, given the size (& federal dynamics) of the state?

Looking at the town map, it's probably possible to make a district that voted for Trump, but it's probably impossible to guarantee that that district will continue to vote Republican until 2030. Even then, it's a bit difficult, because Democrats in the state are concentrated in several non-contiguous areas. You can't connect Dover/Portsmouth to the other Democratic areas without bringing a swath of Republican towns along with them.

So yeah, Republicans might just give up and draw a fair district map, in the hopes that they'll be able to win both districts in a Republican wave year. We'll see.