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Question: Are you anticommunist?
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Author Topic: Are you anticommunist/anti-Marxist?  (Read 6898 times)
Intell
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 27, 2015, 04:45:04 AM »

The theory, or the rulers and the implementation of the communist system.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 08:52:10 AM »
« Edited: September 29, 2015, 10:04:37 PM by Intell »

I am surprised so many are anticommunist.  If we take the The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto of 1848

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work.  Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

It seems to me that the mainstream and for sure center-left parts if the Dem party are for most of what is above with even a good part of the GOP are for or at least accepted some of the above.

At MAX, the democratic party support only #2 and #10, the GOP to my knowledge supports none of them, maybe some form of #10, being generous.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 07:19:14 AM »

We all joked it was only a matter of time until Snowstalker embraced neo-Nazism/white nationalism in a desperate attempt at edginess. But I don't think any of us expected TNF to start paeaning the People's Republic of China and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in the year of our Lord 2015, my God

Well to be fair to TNF, I have friends that still believe in communism and they say the Chinese authoritarian,communist government is good, working efficiently and works for the people better than capitalist. They did leave for higher education purposes though and to peruse a better education.

But really, DRPK, that's just f*king insanity.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 08:14:44 PM »

Naturally, yes.

I understand that communism in practice is not what Marx intended. However, when dozens of experiments in putting his philosophy into practice have ended in mass murder without variation, I stand opposed to the philosophy as a whole - simply because we as a species have proven unfit for it.

Communism as a political philosophy should be as universally unacceptable as fascism.

Same could be said about Jesus Christ and religion though.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 08:33:26 PM »

Naturally, yes.

I understand that communism in practice is not what Marx intended. However, when dozens of experiments in putting his philosophy into practice have ended in mass murder without variation, I stand opposed to the philosophy as a whole - simply because we as a species have proven unfit for it.

Communism as a political philosophy should be as universally unacceptable as fascism.

Same could be said about Jesus Christ and religion though.

I would agree that Christianity and Marxism have both made for invariably horrific forms of government over the years. Both are deeply unsuited for being imposed on a general population.

My point was that the philosophy should not be judged by the people that act in the name of the philosophy, but what the philosophy is itself and what the intention of the writer of the philosophy is.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 06:19:21 PM »

Privileged communists are pretty funny IMO.  We can have a debate about social democracy vs. a more "pure" free market system, but I don't see how anyone could argue in good faith for Communism in light of its many, many massive failures.

http://www.atomicplatters.com/more.php?id=37_0_1_0_M

I subscribed to this channeled for epic BS communist videos, this channel is like f*king worse than fox news, has north-korea apologia, tries to revision history and has Khmer rouge apologia.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MaoistRebelNews2/videos
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