Maybe it's time for normal Republicans to form a third party

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No

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IMO the RINO's need to be purged from the party, if they're not advocating the policies of the Republican party they can go join the Democrats we don't need them.

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IMO the RINO's need to be purged from the party, if they're not advocating the policies of the Republican party they can go join the Democrats we don't need them.

A party of libertarians, hard-core conservatives, nativists, bible-thumpers, and the most hardcore fiscal conservatives

vs.

The modern Democratic party + anybody considered a RINO by today's GOP.

Yeah I can sure see that working out well electorally for the first group.

And it worked extremely well for us last year why should we compromise with the leftists on anything?

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IMO the RINO's need to be purged from the party, if they're not advocating the policies of the Republican party they can go join the Democrats we don't need them.

A party of libertarians, hard-core conservatives, nativists, bible-thumpers, and the most hardcore fiscal conservatives

vs.

The modern Democratic party + anybody considered a RINO by today's GOP.

Yeah I can sure see that working out well electorally for the first group.

Do you really want a party dependent on those horrible people? Democrats would do better wooing Trumpists rather than the sort of odious individual who self-identifies as a moderate

Trumpists hate Bernie yet when Trump holds half the views of Sanders they got NUTS over that...

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IMO the RINO's need to be purged from the party, if they're not advocating the policies of the Republican party they can go join the Democrats we don't need them.

1) What has happened to you?  You used to at least kind of make sense, now you seem to have gone full Ted Cruz.

2) Who defines who's a RINO?  I bet boboblaw disagrees with GOP policy as much as I do, but because he rails against being "PC" and is xenophobic, he's the "real" Republican?  GMAFB, dude.

I realized your wing of the party is a joke and needs to be purged over to the Democrats

If you don't like us, why don't you leave yourself?  We were here first before all the Bible-Thumpers and racists in our nation's worst region got mad at Grandpappy's Democratic Party and came running here.

please change your avatar to a D thanks

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Over the course of a few weeks, the forum's lolbertarian base has broken.

They've become aggressive, rash, and absurdly idiotic.

They may have become deluded into believing that their ideology of sixteen year old potsmokers has a chance in reality. Poor, poor souls.

calling us lolbertarians is childish don't you think?

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It's Rockefeller GOP's wing of the party that causes us to lose elections constantly, Bush 41, McCain, Dole, Romney, Ford.

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IMO the RINO's need to be purged from the party, if they're not advocating the policies of the Republican party they can go join the Democrats we don't need them.

1) What has happened to you?  You used to at least kind of make sense, now you seem to have gone full Ted Cruz.

2) Who defines who's a RINO?  I bet boboblaw disagrees with GOP policy as much as I do, but because he rails against being "PC" and is xenophobic, he's the "real" Republican?  GMAFB, dude.

I realized your wing of the party is a joke and needs to be purged over to the Democrats

If you don't like us, why don't you leave yourself?  We were here first before all the Bible-Thumpers and racists in our nation's worst region got mad at Grandpappy's Democratic Party and came running here.

please change your avatar to a D thanks

Wow, nice comeback, bro!

The two most successful Republican Presidents since WWII have been Eisenhower and Reagan.  Both held political positions that are closer to Rockefeller GOP's than to yours.

P.S.  People who use the term RINO and aren't being completely sarcastic (like my username) are especially stupid people.

Until the so-called moderate wing of the party wakes up and realizes they will not win without libertarians, conservatives, etc., they will keep losing elections.

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Over the course of a few weeks, the forum's lolbertarian base has broken.

They've become aggressive, rash, and absurdly idiotic.

They may have become deluded into believing that their ideology of sixteen year old potsmokers has a chance in reality. Poor, poor souls.

calling us lolbertarians is childish don't you think?

Not as childish as unironically calling yourself libertarian, no.

being socially liberal and fiscally conservative isn't a bad thing..

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God, I have a little fun on this board once and the army comes after me with guns blazing, lighten up people.

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When the "moderates" call our ideologies dangerous and shoot us down without question and mocking us constantly (not that I care) seems like the "moderates" don't want our votes or support, which is fine, but don't cry to us when you keep losing Presidential elections if you lose libertarians, conservatives etc.

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Fortunately, Donald J. Trump is a uniter anod not a divider. He puts the whiny libertarians in their place and the theocrats will joyfully fall in line behind him.

Carson has the theocrats....

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When the "moderates" call our ideologies dangerous and shoot us down without question and mocking us constantly (not that I care) seems like the "moderates" don't want our votes or support, which is fine, but don't cry to us when you keep losing Presidential elections if you lose libertarians, conservatives etc.

... Did you vote for Mitt Romney?  Because my point is that I don't think these libertarians and conservatives are going to vote Democrat or third party, and even if they do, they tend to live in states that are already in the fold.  We don't need more votes in Alabama or Oklahoma or even the not-so-populated Florida Panhandle.  We need to start winning suburban voters who 1) tend to live in swing states and in more populated areas and 2) tend to vote more often, making them more important on election day.

So, pretty much, I dare them to support a different party.  We'd both be happier with where we are apparently, and I really don't think it'd negatively affect GOP electoral prospects that much, especially not long term.  It really sounds like they're p^ssed off because they don't have more influence but ... why should they?

No I did not vote for Romney.

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I have long maintained that anybody using the words "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal" in any capacity other than to mock the phrase should be banned ASAP.

And what is wrong with being that mix?

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I have long maintained that anybody using the words "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal" in any capacity other than to mock the phrase should be banned ASAP.

And what is wrong with being that mix?

It means you're stupid enough to actually believe that social and fiscal issues are independent from one another.

Yeah we get it you hate us move on to something else.

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NYMillennial is a troll. Just put him on ignore, guys. He seems to think that anything other than enlightened liberalism is "childish".

Aren't you like 16?

Lay down.

Haha ... careful there.

Oh wow, I realized how weird that sounded. Clarified it.

Sometimes I think Atlas is turning into a cesspool of degeneracy and outrageous shouting matches between people...

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NYMillennial is a troll. Just put him on ignore, guys. He seems to think that anything other than enlightened liberalism is "childish".

Aren't you like 16?

Lay down.

Haha ... careful there.

Oh wow, I realized how weird that sounded. Clarified it.

Sometimes I think Atlas is turning into a cesspool of degeneracy and outrageous shouting matches between people...

Just to people like you.

Republicans like RINO Tom are cool.

I'm actually pretty chill I just wanted to troll the board the last 2 days but y'all get so worked up sheesh.

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What's wrong with using the phrase "economic" in place of "fiscal". That seems much easier on the mind than advertising slogan schlock like "fiscal". Heck, you could even use that retrospective shorthand for a wide variety of 19th century philosophers - "I follow Classical Liberal ideals" for instance.

Well maybe you're right there, but to me fiscal sounds better than economic.