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« on: March 07, 2024, 03:43:50 PM »

The idea that democracy is a great idea for some countries or cultures but not for others is fundamentally incoherent and abhorrent, and can only come from a place of elitism and racism.

No this is wrong . Democracy can only work in a culture that values individual rights , otherwise democracy simply cannot work .

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2024, 07:23:04 PM »

The idea that democracy is a great idea for some countries or cultures but not for others is fundamentally incoherent and abhorrent, and can only come from a place of elitism and racism.

No this is wrong . Democracy can only work in a culture that values individual rights , otherwise democracy simply cannot work .



A culture can never change or be changed, of course.

Anyway, your point about the importance of valuing individual rights to democracy is accurate if you’re talking about liberal democracy, but worldwide, liberalism is not synonymous with democracy (though it is in the “West”).

Individual rights are more important than democracy and sometimes a democratic system can lead to more rights taken away than a non democratic system .
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2024, 09:00:16 PM »

No this is wrong . Democracy can only work in a culture that values individual rights , otherwise democracy simply cannot work .

So would you agree with the idea that America was not a democracy until the 1960s?

Yes The South wasn’t really a democracy till the 1960s and I have said before I think reconstruction was ended too early .

Though I would like to point out that Jim Crow was implemented through a democracy which is exactly why democracy cannot be placed over individual rights when those two conflict
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2024, 11:36:44 PM »

No this is wrong . Democracy can only work in a culture that values individual rights , otherwise democracy simply cannot work .

So would you agree with the idea that America was not a democracy until the 1960s?

Yes The South wasn’t really a democracy till the 1960s and I have said before I think reconstruction was ended too early .

Though I would like to point out that Jim Crow was implemented through a democracy which is exactly why democracy cannot be placed over individual rights when those two conflict

Violence, intimidation, and other forms of voter suppression + Supreme Court rulings =/ democracy.

I said that was implemented through democracy which can happen. Anti Democratic Measures can easily be implemented through democracies and have time and time again
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