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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2021, 11:33:06 PM »

Now we can finally say this : Governor YoungKing
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« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2021, 11:44:26 PM »

What's shocking about this election is that it's like 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Trump didnt happen at all.

We're back to 2004. Hispanics and Asian Americans being much more favorable to the Republicans.

Loudon and Prince William were solidly Republican counties in 2004 and Fairfax was only Lean D
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« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2021, 11:47:06 PM »



Do you think CRT had anything to do with the loss or do you stand by your previous comments that these cultural issues don’t actually matter as much as the media thinks

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« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2021, 11:52:03 PM »

What's shocking about this election is that it's like 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Trump didnt happen at all.

We're back to 2004. Hispanics and Asian Americans being much more favorable to the Republicans.

Loudon and Prince William were solidly Republican counties in 2004 and Fairfax was only Lean D

It's like when Obama got elected; everything was just messed up, and then Trump arrived and we all know what happened from 2017 to 2021.... right ?

And now that Obama and Trump are gone, and we have a old white democratic president, things are back to 2004.


Ehh , college educated whites are still way to the left of where they were in 2004 as keep in mind in 2004 it was still pretty much a Safe R group and now they are lean D and non college educated whites are still much to the right of where they were in 2004.

Now maybe you can say if you adjust by generational changes (given millianials had little to no voting power in 2004) it is like how things would look like if you adjusted 2004 for 2020 generation
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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2021, 01:19:20 AM »

Regardless of what the margin ends up being, the fact that Republicans were able to improve upon the GOP baseline here by running against teaching Toni Morrison books is really all that any of us needs to know.

lol this is hackish. Parents dont want their kids to be taught anti american propaganda like the 1619 project and liberals should stop advocating that they be taught
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2021, 01:26:45 AM »

Regardless of what the margin ends up being, the fact that Republicans were able to improve upon the GOP baseline here by running against teaching Toni Morrison books is really all that any of us needs to know.

lol this is hackish. Parents dont want their kids to be taught anti american propaganda like the 1619 project and liberals should stop advocating that they be taught

I follow closely the school boards where I live and I have cousins in 3rd, 5th, and 7th grade. None of them are being taught this.



Many prominent liberals argued for this too and Kamala Harris tweeted this

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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2021, 01:31:05 AM »

Regardless of what the margin ends up being, the fact that Republicans were able to improve upon the GOP baseline here by running against teaching Toni Morrison books is really all that any of us needs to know.

lol this is hackish. Parents dont want their kids to be taught anti american propaganda like the 1619 project and liberals should stop advocating that they be taught

You’re one to talk. You can’t teach kids to love their country unless they fully understand all of its history and can accept the darker parts of it. Governor-elect Youngkin said so himself.

You can teach it without demonizing it which is already what was been done in the past 20 years so there was no need to change it
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2021, 01:54:20 PM »

I'm glad I tempered my expectations for this race after the Tox poll gave me an ulcer. In spite of this, that poll being an outlier after all and me actually nailing my updated Youngkin+2 prediction were the only minor silver linings. It was an excruciating night otherwise, like every election since 2014 (2027 and 2019 excepted).

I want to be sedated.



See? I f***ing knew we couldn't trust suburbanites in general. They hate Trump, but only him personally. They're like relapsing addicts with the GOP without him.

So if Democrats can't rely on them, or even voters of color anymore, what does a winning Democratic coalition even look like? Let's face it, we're going the way of the British Labour Party but we can't even partly blame Scotland like they can.

Democrats never want to admit this, but we do in fact need the old New Deal coalition if we want to be as competitive in local and congressional races as we are for the presidency. In safe blue districts/states, run as liberal a candidate as you can find. But down south, Democrats have his really stupid idea of running of socially liberal fiscally moderate-conservative corporatists which NOBODY LIKES OUTSIDE OF THE WEALTHY NORTHEAST. Run socially conservative populists.... like legitimate populists... run a bunch of tough Teddy Roosevelt clones who a more traditional electorate can trust to represent them on cultural issues and fight for their best interests on economic issues. I'm tired of seeing (insert generic effeminate beta male neoliberal here) lose year after year. When they do manage to squeak out a victory, they always sell their voters out to corporate donors.


Maybe Democrats can come back in the rural midwest, but the rural south isnt possible anymore. Ronald Reagan broke the Democratic Hold on the Rural South and then George W Bush absolutely obliterated any hopes for a Democratic resurgence there
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2021, 03:52:27 PM »

In the end it just goes to show you that voters will find any reason to throw a party out of power lol

This sentence seems to suggest that TMac (quite possibly) losing is the voters’ *fault* instead of the voters’ *choice*

Peak Atlas Democrat brain, y’all

I know this is an old comment but I feel need to respond to it

My final post on election night was not about blaming voters for not picking TMac It was about making a larger statement about how our current political environment works

Bill Clinton famous statement about it being all about the economy, stupid is increasingly no longer relevant today because voters do not reward politicians anymore for a good economy like they did in the past. They also don't punish politicians for a bad economy like they use to because Obama won in 2012 despite the economy still not being great and Trump almost won in 2020 despite the country being in a recession.

looking at this race objectively had this been the 1980s, 1990s or even the early 2000 terry mcauliffe would have won the election just based on low unemployment numbers alone but because of the increasing partisanship, it is hard for either party these days to really benefit from a decent economy or low unemployment numbers

Now in farness I have heard some suggest that inflation is the reason for mcauliffe loss, but to frank with you I'm not convinced that terry mcauliffe would have won this election, even with low inflation because ultimately this race was not really about the economy

it was about this....






48% of voters chose taxes and the economy as their most important issue.



For those who chose the "culture war" issue of Education, 44% still voted for McAuliffe.

This poll basically just proves my main point

Terry McAuliffe is losing to Glenn Youngkin on the economy and jobs at a time when Virginia is actually doing even better than the country as a whole and unemployment is at 3.8 percent

Again had this been the 80s 90s or even the 2000s there is no chance that Glenn Youngkin would be beating McAuliffe on that issue when the economy was doing that well. The fact is Terry McAuliffe and Dems literally got no credit for the great economy in virigina would scare the heck out me if were the Dems heading into the 2022 midterms

These results suggest to me that voters may not reward the Dems even if the economy is doing well in 2022 or even if the Dems do pass popular bills like infrastructure.




High inflation is an issue that can affect more people directly than High Unemployment
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2021, 05:55:17 PM »

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« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2021, 03:08:14 PM »

Glenn Youngkin is the last kind of Republican candidate I'd expect to over perform with hispanics - he's basically got that Mitt Romney asthetic.  You need a strongman like Trump to fire up the low info hispanics, not a guy who looks like his mom just knitted him his fleece.  He didn't project strength.

youngkin was basically the perfect fit for college whites in va and he still lost them according to exit polls

i mean, sweet jesus, who does the gop have to nominate to win back these voters?


At this point, it seems like it's a trend happening all over the English-speaking world where college educated white voters are moving left. The recent Canadian Election is a perfect example of this
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« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2022, 01:40:14 AM »

Can thread thread title be renamed The YoungKing administration please
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« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2022, 01:08:15 PM »

Can thread thread title be renamed The YoungKing administration please
This is embarrassing.


I should get some credit for creating a meme on here Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2022, 12:57:52 PM »

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/virginia-inauguration-weekend-2022-governor-glenn-youngkin-winsome-sears-attorney-general-jason-miyares-gop-republican-leaders


YoungKing is officially governor
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« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2022, 06:00:29 PM »




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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2022, 01:12:38 PM »

Blue state red governors are almost always either enormously popular or enormously unpopular. I have a feeling Youngkin is going to be the latter of the two by the end of his term.

Why do you say so? It's certainly clear that Youngkin is governing, or will be governing, to the right of Baker, Hogan, and Scott.

Yes, and Youngkin never ran as a "Baker" or "Scott," nor is VA as Democratic as MA or VT, nor is the R base in VA (which turned out in unprecedented numbers/margins for him) as liberal as in those New England states, nor did Youngkin receive significant crossover support from Democrats in the GE the way those aforementioned Republicans did. Youngkin also promised to reverse some of the radical D policies of the last eight years, so I don’t see what the big deal here is.

All of this is true, but Democrats (at least on this forum) see Youngkin as an "extremist" and as no different than more ardently conservative Republicans. They take particular issue with his measures regarding CRT and school mask mandates.

It wasn’t only Democrats on this forum who see Youngkin as an “extremist” as the democrats in Virginia ran their entire campaign on Youngkin being an “extremist” for proposing exactly what he said he’d do and they lost .

So far Youngkin hasn’t done anything he didn’t promise he would do
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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2022, 12:33:23 PM »

Imagine saying for months preceding the election that Youngkin was the second coming of Trump, "Trumpkin" (also in the title of the thread, lol), and that he was extreme, a bad candidate, and would lose. Then he wins, and now people are having "buyer's remorse" because he just did what he campaigned on?

What did they expect? Some RINO like Charlie Baker? The Democrats on this forum surely didn't expect that, given the reaction at the time and now. But now it's a useful little wedge of a narrative even though it never existed from them before.


The same people who said Youngkin couldn’t win or was too radical to win are now saying voters will have buyers remorse due to their new governor doing exactly what he promised he do multiple times during the campaign
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« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2023, 04:03:04 PM »

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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2023, 05:04:45 PM »

I agree that consensual sex work is just another job and not any sort of disqualifying scandal, but that of course doesn't mean that candidates won't be judged by their choice of job just like they would for being a prosecutor, a hedge fund manager, etc.

No it is not
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2023, 01:02:20 AM »

Imagine if republicans get a trifecta in VA while losing the KY and MS gubernatorial races . Would Be crazy lol
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