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Harding (D)
 
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Harding (R)
 
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Harding (I/O)
 
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Coolidge (D)
 
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Coolidge (R)
 
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Coolidge (I/O)
 
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Hoover (D)
 
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Hoover (R)
 
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Hoover (I/O)
 
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« on: July 09, 2020, 03:03:05 PM »

Coolidge and its not even close
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2020, 06:11:47 PM »

Each was significantly worse than the last

Surprised you like Harding over Hoover since Harding was to Hoover's right and more corrupt
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2020, 01:47:41 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2020, 01:50:59 AM by Old School Republican »

Hope this also snaps this forum of the idea that the 1920s GOP was somehow more moderate than today's GOP . Like literally everything the left claims they hate the modern gop for, the gop then was that on steirods

On Economics- The GOP cut taxes more in the 1920s, cut domestic spending by a greater proportion, were more anti union and were far more laaize faire on economics than the modern gop and it isnt even close

On Immigration- The Immigration Bill the GOP passed in 1924 makes Tom Cotton's immigration bill look like an open borders bill

Being in supportive of keeping marijuana banned- The GOP of the 1920s were a strong proponent of prohibition

Also under Trump the First Step Act while the GOP with massive majorities throughout the 1920s got almost nothing done on civil rights then.




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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2020, 07:23:36 PM »

Hasn’t the academic consensus come around to the fact that Hoover was put in an unwinnable situation? 

Not really ,

Hoover still refused to bail out the banks in the banking crises of 1930 and it was the banking crisis of 1930 not the 1929 crash when things really started to plummet

He still appointed a hard money guy to the fed

He still signed Smoot Hawley
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2020, 01:33:08 PM »

All three are great.  Harding is my “Spirit President,” so I gave my vote to him.  However, Coolidge is my favorite in more “political” terms or whatever, as I appreciate the dignity and temperament he gave to the office.

How can you think Harding and Hoover were Great Presidents while thinking Trump as a bad one .


Hoover presidency was basically Trump’s except we had 3 and a half years of massive incompetence dealing with a major crises instead of 9 months . The 1929 crash while yes did make a recession inevitable the depth and length of the depression was cause of his massive incompetence.


- He literally let the financial system collapse in fall of 1930 as he refused to bail the banks out . This is what led to a collapse in money supply

- He literally appoint hard money guys at the Fed so the blame people give to the fed also goes to him because he appointed Eugene Meyer

- He signed Smoot Hawley into law


The idea that he was unlucky and there was nothing that could be done about it is pretty ridiculous given these 3 major major things .


2008 by many indications was worse than 1929 but we responded well so we didn’t have a repeat of the depression and the way we responded was literally doing the opposite of what Hoover did
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2020, 04:24:41 PM »

All three are great.  Harding is my “Spirit President,” so I gave my vote to him.  However, Coolidge is my favorite in more “political” terms or whatever, as I appreciate the dignity and temperament he gave to the office.

How can you think Harding and Hoover were Great Presidents while thinking Trump as a bad one .


Hoover presidency was basically Trump’s except we had 3 and a half years of massive incompetence dealing with a major crises instead of 9 months . The 1929 crash while yes did make a recession inevitable the depth and length of the depression was cause of his massive incompetence.


- He literally let the financial system collapse in fall of 1930 as he refused to bail the banks out . This is what led to a collapse in money supply

- He literally appoint hard money guys at the Fed so the blame people give to the fed also goes to him because he appointed Eugene Meyer

- He signed Smoot Hawley into law


The idea that he was unlucky and there was nothing that could be done about it is pretty ridiculous given these 3 major major things .


2008 by many indications was worse than 1929 but we responded well so we didn’t have a repeat of the depression and the way we responded was literally doing the opposite of what Hoover did

Hindsight is wonderful.  For the time, the measures Hoover did undertake involved considerably more government intervention in the business cycle than had ever been done before in the U.S. During the 1932 campaign, Roosevelt attacked Hoover for being "the greatest spending Administration in peacetime in all our history". Yes, Hoover made mistakes, but they were quite understandable ones, especially compared to how FDR reignited the depression in 1937 by cutting government spending after the election in a misguided effort to quickly bring the budget back into balance because he thought the economy had recovered. If it hadn't been for WW II, the Republicans might well have retaken Congress and/or the White House in 1940.  It's almost certain that FDR wouldn't have been nominated for a third term without the war.


Hoover waited until it was too late and it wasn’t hindsight.  The Federal Reserve was created specifically to deal with a banning crises and Hoover nominated hard money guys to it .

Banks in the past had been bailed out which Hoover didn’t do .

These aren’t hindsight things , Hoover could have saved the financial system and he refused to do it which is why the depression was so bad and long.


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Compared to the decline of roughly one-third in the quantity of
money from late 1930 to early 1933, the decline in the quantity
of money up to October 1930 seems mild—a mere 2.6 percent


http://www.proglocode.unam.mx/sites/proglocode.unam.mx/files/docencia/Milton%20y%20Rose%20Friedman%20-%20Free%20to%20Choose.pdf
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