Does AOC have a realistic chance to become U.S. President one day?

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Lol No,

If she was eligible in 2020 against Trump she would get obliterated (Trump would get 360 EV at the very least and win by at least 6-7 points nationally). Against anyone else she would get obliterated by an even larger margin.


AOC would be toxic in suburban areas in every way possible and set the party back decades

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Yes, and I think she will be eventually.



Her ideas are becoming more and more mainstream, and as more boomers who are afraid of "socialism" die off and are replaced by minorities and left-leaning white millenials, she should have no problem winning.

Also, the suburbs aren't going to rapidly swing against her because by the time she's running for President, they'll already be Titanium D if current trends continue until then.

The Suburbs trended D because they weren’t too left wing on economics, if AOC becomes the nominee that will no longer be true


The Suburbs would on social issues right now cause right now both parties support policies that benefit the Suburbs . With AOC that will no longer be true

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Yes, and I think she will be eventually.



Her ideas are becoming more and more mainstream, and as more boomers who are afraid of "socialism" die off and are replaced by minorities and left-leaning white millenials, she should have no problem winning.

Also, the suburbs aren't going to rapidly swing against her because by the time she's running for President, they'll already be Titanium D if current trends continue until then.

The Suburbs trended D because they weren’t too left wing on economics, if AOC becomes the nominee that will no longer be true


The Suburbs would on social issues right now cause right now both parties support policies that benefit the Suburbs . With AOC that will no longer be true

The suburbs are getting more and more diverse, and more educated as well.

They didn't vote for Clinton because they particularly liked her economic policies, they voted for her because they particularly hated Trump and his personality, with dislike for most of his policies probably being secondary.

Look at how well Beto did in the Texas suburbs, and remember he ran on abolishing ICE, Medicare for all, etc.

Again Beto and Clinton do not equal AOC not even close

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People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

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Yes, and I think she will be eventually.



Her ideas are becoming more and more mainstream, and as more boomers who are afraid of "socialism" die off and are replaced by minorities and left-leaning white millenials, she should have no problem winning.

Also, the suburbs aren't going to rapidly swing against her because by the time she's running for President, they'll already be Titanium D if current trends continue until then.

The Suburbs trended D because they weren’t too left wing on economics, if AOC becomes the nominee that will no longer be true


The Suburbs would on social issues right now cause right now both parties support policies that benefit the Suburbs . With AOC that will no longer be true

The suburbs are getting more and more diverse, and more educated as well.

They didn't vote for Clinton because they particularly liked her economic policies, they voted for her because they particularly hated Trump and his personality, with dislike for most of his policies probably being secondary.

Look at how well Beto did in the Texas suburbs, and remember he ran on abolishing ICE, Medicare for all, etc.

Again Beto and Clinton do not equal AOC not even close

On what specific issues did Beto run to the right of AOC in his Senate campaign?

Taxes , energy policy , Healthcare (in the debate he said he is for a public option ) , And there is a massive difference in foreign policy .


Also midterm elections are fundamentally different than Presidential as in midterm elections , the election are mainly a referendum on the incumbent while in Presidential elections both candidates positions on the issues are much more known by the public .

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People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/02/green-new-deal-is-impossible-and-a-partial-attempt-would-cost-over-50-trillion.html%3famp

[OSR stands with Israel]

People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/

Congratulations, you found a Republican hack study from a Republican hack group that blows things way out of proportion.

Find any study that shows me it would cost less than 20 trillion over 10 years


By the way they explain how they got to those numbers in the articles but you guys on the left are just as fact free as you claim people on the right are on the issues you support .

[OSR stands with Israel]

People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/

Congratulations, you found a Republican hack study from a Republican hack group that blows things way out of proportion.

Published in a republican hack magazine, don't forget.

Congratulations, beep boop. You've hit the fact free trifecta!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

[OSR stands with Israel]

People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/

Congratulations, you found a Republican hack study from a Republican hack group that blows things way out of proportion.

Published in a republican hack magazine, don't forget.

Congratulations, beep boop. You've hit the fact free trifecta!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

Your first link rather proves my point, and your ladder link is a pathetic red herring attempt at whataboutism.

BTW, check out the Wikipedia page for the website you are citing. Columbia journalism review refers to it as an amateur media bias website his results are in no way scientific. Admittedly, it's somewhat difficult to be scientific about something this subjective, but you aren't exactly reaching for the stars in terms of citing credible Authority here.

Find me a source which says the Green New Deal will cost under 20 trillion In 10 years

[OSR stands with Israel]

People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/

Congratulations, you found a Republican hack study from a Republican hack group that blows things way out of proportion.

Published in a republican hack magazine, don't forget.

Congratulations, beep boop. You've hit the fact free trifecta!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

Your first link rather proves my point, and your ladder link is a pathetic red herring attempt at whataboutism.

BTW, check out the Wikipedia page for the website you are citing. Columbia journalism review refers to it as an amateur media bias website his results are in no way scientific. Admittedly, it's somewhat difficult to be scientific about something this subjective, but you aren't exactly reaching for the stars in terms of citing credible Authority here.

Find me a source which says the Green New Deal will cost under 20 trillion In 10 years

You do realize that you have to compare $20 trillion or whatever number to the cost of all the damage climate change will do to America right? It isn't "20 trillion versus zero".

20 trillion is the low end of the cost, the fact is there is no way to fund the green new deal without nationalizing many industries including the energy industry.

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People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/

Congratulations, you found a Republican hack study from a Republican hack group that blows things way out of proportion.

Published in a republican hack magazine, don't forget.

Congratulations, beep boop. You've hit the fact free trifecta!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

Your first link rather proves my point, and your ladder link is a pathetic red herring attempt at whataboutism.

BTW, check out the Wikipedia page for the website you are citing. Columbia journalism review refers to it as an amateur media bias website his results are in no way scientific. Admittedly, it's somewhat difficult to be scientific about something this subjective, but you aren't exactly reaching for the stars in terms of citing credible Authority here.

Find me a source which says the Green New Deal will cost under 20 trillion In 10 years

Gee, literally 5 seconds on Google and factcheck.org regarding Trump statements about it show otherwise.

You're not even trying here.

Lol nice job deflecting and playing the whataboutism game

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People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

Can you provide an example? And not just an example of where she has made a mistake, but an example of where she has been factually wrong and then doubled down and refused to reverse course?  Because doing that over and over and over is why people think Republicans live in denial of reality.

People who support AOC shouldn’t accuse Republicans of living in a fact free world because they are supporting a politician who lives in a fact free world as well.

"Fact free".

Do you make that assessment based on complete BS Fox News assessments like the green New Deal is going to prohibit procreation and cow farting? Or just a near religious like, not to mention ahistorical, belief that Reaganomics was wonderful and the only way to grow the economy is to give rich people tax breaks?

The cost of Trump’s Tax cuts were 1.5-2 trillion , the Bush ones were around 2.5 trillion



The cost of AOC Green New Deal are significantly higher and would cost more in one year than either the Bush or trump tax cuts did in 10 : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2019/02/19/the-green-new-deal-and-the-cost-of-virtue/amp/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/02/green-new-deal-is-impossible-and-a-partial-attempt-would-cost-over-50-trillion.html%3famp